To Palestinians, Gaza is a symbol of resistance. To Israel, Gaza is a template to pummel and isolate that resistance.

On June 19, Israeli combat helicopters fired missiles into the camp, ostensibly as part of an arrest operation that ended up killing five Palestinians, including a 15-year-old girl named Sadeel Naghniyeh.

Then in early July, in the worst attack on the West Bank since 2002, the Israeli armed forces terrorised the inhabitants of Jenin for two days and killed at least 12 people, including children. The massive aerial and ground assault involved helicopter gunships, missiles, drones, armoured vehicles, bulldozers and more than 1,000 Israeli soldiers.

That is what happens, it seems, when Palestinians keep rebuilding – and keep existing. Indeed, Al Jazeera quoted 56-year-old camp resident Ahmed Abu Hweileh on the takeaway from the bloody escapade: “The message to the world and the occupation is that this camp will keep on going. They tried to destroy it and it came back up.”

Israel’s recent comportment in Jenin – and particularly the sudden use of air strikes in the West Bank for the first time in years – has invited comparisons to the Israeli modus operandi in the Gaza Strip, another location that has come to symbolise Palestinian resistance.

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Judging by the pro-fash bootlickers infesting this post it sure looks like Israel’s shill farms have wasted no time slithering onto Lemmy.

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Somehow Israel is a genocidal imperialist government driven by blood and soil nationalism, and it’s supposed to get a pass for…handwavy reasons…

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Honestly you’d think they’d have better arguments.

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Al Jazeera is owned by the Qatari government.

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Al Jazeera has been given many awards for fair and (relatively) unbiased journalism. Notably, many of the journalists at Al Jazeera are not Qatari.

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What do corrupt awards given by a corrupt industry prove?

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Qatar is openly hostile to Israel.

Notably, Qatar does not consider the Hamas a terrorist organization. Hamas leaders are based in Qatar.

I am well aware that Al Jazeera is generally considered unbiased, but the conflict of interest is very obvious when it comes to coverage of Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

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Qatar is openly hostile to Israel.

So is anyone with a fully-functional brain. What is your point?

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Anyone with a heart and half a brain should be openly hostile to Israel as it currently operates.

I get what you’re saying and I think we should be mindful where we get our news from, but then being against Israel isn’t enough to discredit their coverage, especially since they’re on the right side on history of this one - meaning they don’t need to make anything up to make Israel look bad. They would be downright stupid to lie, even if they were nothing but Qatari state propagandists.

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Qatar is openly hostile to Israel.

Of course it is. Israel is a terrorist state.

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Then why does the Israeli government still allow interviews with Al Jazeera reporters? And Qatar is not openly hostile to Israel; it condemns Israel’s human rights abuses but still offers full diplomatic and economic ties with them in exchange for a two state solution (what the U.S. also claims to back) but the rightwing Netanyahu government refused the deal.

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Should I link US controlled media then? To further spread the liberal narrative?

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I don’t feel like arguing politics.

But don’t put words in my mouth - I’m not American and in my country media isn’t controlled by the state.

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I don’t feel like arguing politics.

Then why bring that up at all

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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/07/04/middleeast/israel-west-bank-jenin-raids-tuesday-intl-hnk/index.html

  • this was in response to terrorist attacks that originated from Jenin
  • no innocents have been killed, only wounded
  • (not from this article) about half a ton of gun powder and explosives were confiscated
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Terrorism is the only possible way to deal with a violent oppressor. If you were on their side you’d be calling them guerrilla warriors. Remember in what kind of glowing coverage the US media used to talk about mujahideen?

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Terrorism is the only possible way to deal with a violent oppresso

Lmao the fact that you think the terrorists are victims shows your utter disregard for the actual facts.

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Not what I’m saying, fam. My point is that if you are the far less powerful side in an armed conflict your only real strategy is terrorism/guerrilla warfare. This is also the case in violent oppressions.

However, that doesn’t even slightly imply anything about how often terrorism is justified or about if terrorists are “the good guys”.

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I’ll let you in on a tiny secret: if the plastinians weren’t violent they would’ve already have a county (shhh)

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Riiiiiight… and if Jewish people would just have stopped being Jewish the nazis would have given them a cozy homeland in Bavaria, right?

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Is this sarcasm? You’re saying if they stopped fighting back against invaders who want to take their land they…would have land? If only they’d give up their land, they’d have land? Do I have that right? I hope I’m just misreading this.

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LPT: if the truth isn’t on your side, just boldly lie.

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wow, this leaves a bad taste

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Innocents were only wounded, good work everyone!

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So it’s only a War No-No, then?

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no innocents have been killed, only wounded

Evil naZi propaganda

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As if it’s been anything but that, ever in it’s existence? The PA is Gaza, Fatah is Gaza, Hamas is Fatah, there is no discernible difference between any Palestinian group whatsoever, as an identifiable discernable difference would mean one is more willing to work towards a lasting responsible peace with Israel than the other, and no Palestinian group, faction, camp, or town has ever honestly worked towards one, ever.

Play silly shell games for another 70 years, it’s cool, the Jews can wait. And defend themselves.

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The bigger problem is that Israel is a violent apartheid state, lol

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Backed up by a wannabe theocracy ruled by the NRA.

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What does peace mean when Israel keeps stealing your land?

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What

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It was never their land. They refused to accept every peaceful solution and attacked Israel.

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Arabs are from Arabia, Jews are from Judea. Hope that helps. And if it doesn’t we really couldn’t give a shit, if it’s not one thing with you people, it’s another, we’re pretty used to it by now. And we aren’t going anywhere.

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Literally blood and soil nationalism.

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Huh I wonder what would discourage them from working together with Israel. Must just be one of those things I guess.

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You mean Palestine doesn’t work together with Israel because they keep getting invaded and having their rights violated?

Are you a tankie? /s

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It’s impressive the level of ignorance in this post. Palestinians have put forth multiple peace proposals and the Israeli government has turned them down without any counter offer. Abbas offered to permanently give up Jerusalem and Right of Return in exchange for just a meeting with Netanyahu on peace talks and was turned down. Netanyahu does not WANT a credible peace partner, which is why he jails Palestinian politicians and undermines the moderates, so he can create a fait accompli.

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You say that as if it’s a bad thing, Jews in their own land, willing and able to defend themselves against the Arab colonizers, who could live in peace if they chose to, or you know, fuck off back to Arabia, which is their own land, at anytime, but choose not to.

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…in their own land, which sadly had a terrible infestation of people living there. Hmm yeah, the rational course of action is clearly to eradicate them.

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