87 points

“Drain the swamp!”

Says one of the biggest swamp rats in the world.

These people are addicted to voting against their own interests. Just look at the 2017 tax cuts. At the EPA. At his covid response.

I just hope he’s turned enough of them off voting in our “rigged” elections for 2024z

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They’re willing to do and vote against anything as long as they can openly hate the trans!

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22 points

You’re not emphasizing their fear of change, ethnocentrism, or misogyny enough.

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2 points

He allowed enough of his supporters to die of COVID I don’t think they stand a chance if the Democrats can Garner the same level of support as 2020; it’s even more dismal for them if the democratic turnout is even higher than 2020.

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5 points

Never underestimate the stupidity of the American electorate.

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38 points

I always threw a “are you saying America wasn’t Great before?!? Is that some commie talk?” And they hate it.

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2 points

it was good, then the liberals arrived. /hj

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He’s only doing it because he care’s about America.

sigh /s

I need to add that this is similar to saying I care about my wife so I beat her because I don’t like what she thinks some of the time and I need to treat her accordingly

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My mom says this all the time. 🤢

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My parents are the same way…all in for Trump. But I know my parents and know they have good hearts. They’ve just been saturated in the right-wing media ecosystem that’s been peddling pro-Trump propaganda for years…to the point where they live in a completely different reality. And they’ve invested so much into it emotionally, they just can’t see it any other way.

Without the far right media and the complicit right-wing politicians enabling him, Trump is nothing. They’re the ones I blame for the damage done to the country, to my relationship with my parents, to my parents’ worldview and their mental health.

I’m not saying the average Trump follower is blameless, but most of them were completely unprepared and ill-equiped to handle the level of propaganda thrown at them from every angle (right-wing news, social media, & way too many enablers in the GOP).

I’ve had to try to talk my parents down from so many conspiracy theories. All of a sudden, the ones who taught me as a child to not believe everything I saw on the internet were latching on to anything that supported what they’d been told to believe. But I have to remember that they didn’t grow up with the internet, with having to evaluate credibility of sources, and filter out misinformation the same way I did. They lacked the experience and the tools to do that properly.

All that to say, it’s a weird mix of things going on. It’s complex. And again, while I don’t consider the average Trump supporter to be blameless (certainly not the ones acting in violence or criminally), we need to remember that they are still human. So many of them are good people who’ve just been fooled into believing things that are not true. We should be angrier at the ones who fooled them than at the ones who were fooled.

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All of a sudden, the ones who taught me as a child to not believe everything I saw on the internet were latching on to anything that supported what they’d been told to believe.

I find this to be the saddest part of it all

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4 points

Very well said

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10 points

I know a guy that openly ignores the sexual abuse because he “doesn’t care about his personal life” so long as he “makes the country better”. He has also whined incessantly about Hunter’s laptop.

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And I would wager that he finds Clinton’s little cigar escapade to be a death sentence worthy crime.

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32 points

My dad complained that the government wasn’t using their own oil at one point, then later completely switches when trump supported not using it.

It’s so frustrating to talk to him about politics:

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30 points

Why are we acting like this is new?

You can change out the 2024 on this and make it 2016 and it works exactly the same.

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by now it should’ve been “347 examples of trump committing crimes and fraud”

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3 points

347 examples last week…

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9 points

In 2016 there might have been people who didn’t know what Trump would be like as president. In 2024, there shouldn’t be such people anymore.

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I don’t really judge people for voting for Trump in 2016. It shows ignorance, certainly, but not necessarily maliciousness. But I don’t have time for anybody that voted for him in 2020 or is still supporting him. It’s not even a matter of differing political ideals, it’s a complete lack of political ideals. Trumpites flip back and forth, just following whatever their orange messiah says.

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In all seriousness, it is about basic human decency. You cannot really believe you are a decent person, if you see Trump as a leader in any form, someone to follow anywhere, a man to be trusted with your life.

That’s independent from politics. It’s about the decay of basic decency in society.

This man grabs’em by the pussy, is racist to the core, handles things openly with malicious intent - strangely all the things that have been on the rise, since Trump was president.

It’s almost like his presidential arc empowered the like minded in the population to be more self-confident in their beliefs and even more vocal about it.

Make no mistake, don’t think this is something that happened exclusively to USA. Trump’s presidential antics caused shockwaves that went around the globe. Like a knife, dividing societies all around the globe.

I despise him for that.

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3 points

Who is acting like this is new?

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