34 points

I support this group. No country can say they’re doing something against climate change and also approve new oil drilling at the same time.

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Sure - but what do the attendees of a gaming conference have to do with new oil wells being approved?

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I suspect it’s for the publicity. Events like this attract different demographics than the usual targets, so it’s more exposure. It might not make the tabloids but it does get reported on.

Historically, any publicity has been seen as good publicity. But, given the reputation they are building, I think this is not how it is playing out.

So I agree, it just makes people with little to no power feel blamed. Time for a change of approach.

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Ah the gamers. They seem like a reasonable bunch!

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1 point

Any big stage will do

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They’re the ones who voted in the twats in power.

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Who? I didn’t vote the oil execs into power.

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Digital terminals are a huge source of pollution for pure luxury, and gaming is a very good representation of the stupidity of the overconsumption society.

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gaming is a very good representation of the stupidity of the overconsumption society.

Certainly an interesting take.

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3 points

Norway enters the chat

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2 points

Laughs in Tesla funded by unlimited oil money. “I’m doing my part suckers!”

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The heiress of a fossil fuel company provides money to a fund that funds them. Just Stop Oil says the majority of its funding comes from the Climate Emergency Fund. The fund, is founded by fossil fuel heiress Aileen Getty. Aileen Getty, is an heiress to the Getty family fortune established by oil magnate J. Paul Getty.

https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environment/article/2022/11/03/aileen-getty-billionaire-proud-to-finance-environmental-activists-dramatic-actions_6002800_114.html

It’s just kind of bizarre to me…

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33 points

Not everyone in a family has to have the same worldviews. Just look at Elon Musks daughter for an example of this.

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Hey if I found out my family fortune came from the slave trade I’d work against that. I imagine finding out your family’s fortune came from the petroleum industry is pretty depressing when you look at our world - knowing that you profited on all this misery and loads more misery to come. Better to get out ahead of it, whether subconsciously or deliberately.

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The most cynical view is that she funds them specifically because it makes climate protestors look bad. They are radical in their methods and their targets seem to just be random spaces where there is a larger(but not too large) public density.

However the reality is probably more complicated. She might disagree with her grandfather and agree with their message, she might think that pulling funding would be worse PR than the few headlines that JSO generates, or she might not care one way or the other.

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She has no financial interest in the fossil fuel industry. At all.

It is well documented that she is acting out of remorse over what happened and is trying to make things right. Again: She does not benefit from the fossil fuel industry at all. The story that she is a covert operative working for the fossil fuel industry has been debunked time and again. Stop the conspiracy stuff

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8 points

I can see it from a guilt perspective

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I’ll believe they are a psyop. Either that or they got some insane feedback loop in their circles leading them to believe this stuff actually helps.

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With the number of absolute dimwits that seem to think any publicity is good publicity, I suspect it’s the latter. Every stunt they pull, someone always comes out in support of them.

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14 points

Why at a games tournament? They should do this at an even that uses a lot of oil like Motorsport, marine etc… Games don’t use a lot of oil really lol

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This group also targeted a Formula Electric Grand Prix, which seems counter productive…

https://www.reuters.com/sports/motor-sports/climate-change-activists-protest-berlin-formula-e-race-2023-04-23/

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Targeted people trying to do the right thing? Lol. I worry if they went to NASCAR or monster trucks they would be harmed by the fans you see there

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1 point

You couldn’t make this shit up, seriously.

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2 points

One day it’s gonna come out that it was all a prank organised on 4chan, isn’t it?

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Not directly but… I genuinely worry - video games are basically software that turns electricity into heat. The entire market is growing year over year, requiring more power each generation. Do the math, it’s pretty easy.

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There are a lot of much more harmful things people could be doing with their spare time than playing vidya games.

Besides, it entirely depends on how renewable the electricity generation is as to the environmental impact.

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Computing requires little oil, while we aren’t there yet its safe to assume it will be powered by green energy

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video games are basically software that turns electricity into heat.

your reply in no way addresses this fundamental point.

The entire market is growing year over year, requiring more power each generation. Do the math, it’s pretty easy.

ditto. even if we only worry about the heat generated, and not the power sourced (assuming your 100% renewable which is not realistic today) - we still have a problem.

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They have done this at motorsport events… Putting their lives, the competitors lives and the marshals lives at risk. It’s idiotic

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That’ll certainly win them more hearts and minds. Sheesh

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I used to be quite sympathetic but after seeing them blocking ambulances and trying to fuck up the day of people who otherwise agree, I hate them and hope they’re all arrested. And I’m not alone. Support for the climate movement has halved in two years in Germany because of these absolute morons.

While 68 percent of those surveyed in 2021 said they fundamentally supported the climate movement, the figure in the current publication has halved to 34 percent. What is striking is that support has declined significantly in all social groups, even in more progressive milieus that were otherwise more open to the movement.

When asked specifically about the “Last Generation” road blockades, 85 percent of those surveyed said they had no understanding of this form of protest.

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but after seeing them blocking ambulances

JSO in the UK have a very clear blue-light policy - ie get out of the way and let them pass - so this does not happen.

Beyond that, the point of protest is that it’s disruptive.

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Oh no, how will we ever cope without the support of spiteful dickheads who weren’t doing a single fucking thing to help in the first place.

Peoe like you don’t understand the point of these protests. It’s not about winning you lot over, because nothing was ever going to do that. We have been protesting “the right way” for decades and people like you just stuck your head in the sand and ignored the problem to focus on your own convenience. And now we’re royally fucked. So all we can do now is get in pepples way, disrupt their lives so they are forced to pay some kind of attention.

When people like you say you disaprove of these protests, what you really mean is you want to be able to go back to ignoring the problem.

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How will these protests lead to meaningful change? Do you think this form of protest will result in any more success than aforementioned ‘right way’?

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If you don’t realise why killing political support for your cause is bad, by all means, keep doing what you’re doing. If you want to affect real change, be nice to the people from whom you want votes. Democracy requires discussion and compromise. Pissing on your allies does the opposite of what you want.

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Aaaaaaaaaaand this is how you nuke support from orbit.

This way isn’t working either. It’s time to go back to the drawing board and brainstorm some better ideas.

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I think this comment demonstrates pretty much everything that’s wrong with the JSO approach. The arrogant supposition that you know anything about the people who are disrupted is breathtaking.

So all we can do now is get in pepples way, disrupt their lives so they are forced to pay some kind of attention.

You have that right. But I suspect that “people like you” care very little about climate change and how to avoid it. But you really enjoy getting in people’s way, disrupting theitr lives and getting attention… and that’s the point.

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7 points

Good for them!

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