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For reference, that’s 31.5% of all House Republicans. Another way to see it is that 68.5% of House Republicans, which are generally the most extreme breed of Republican, are supportive of US military aid to Ukraine. I’m pleasantly surprised to find support for Ukraine remaining that high.

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And in early 2015, what percentage of Republicans openly supported Trump? How many of them voted to impeach him? How many of them voted to impeach the second time?

Make no mistake - this is extremely alarming and you should wake up. I legitimately can’t believe I even have to type this comment out. We are so fucked.

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There should be zero US dollars spent on Ukraine and Israel as long as homelessness and healthcare are still a problem in the US. The fact that I even have to remind people of this problem is alarming.

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Homelessness and healthcare aren’t stuck behind money in any way. There’s no need to even reduce the military budget or Ukraine donations to make them happen. It’s just that nobody but the poor people wants them solved. Everyone involved profits from it.

There are way more empty residential properties in the US than homeless people. The inefficiency of the current healthcare system is so bad, the US government spends a bigger part of the GDP on healthcare than many countries with universal healthcare - and that doesn’t even include private spending.

But you know what? Doctors in the US can make about 10x as much as doctors in my eastern-european country with socialized medicine while the difference in median salaries between the two countries is barely 3x. People will tell you it’s just insurance companies profiting off the system while everyone else suffers, but it’s also doctors, nurses and the ultra-greedy hospital administrators. Property owners in the US have been enjoying huge value appreciation for a long time. Did you know that some 65% of Americans own a home? All of those people are profiting off the unaffordable housing market, some more than others.

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Lol, you have to be gullible to think the conservative politicians actually cares about balancing the budget. If we cut off Ukraine they’ll just go back to their old excuses for screwing over poor people.

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I got to hand it to the Russians. Their disinformation campaigns against the US finally worked.

The GOP has had a long history of supporting their figureheads at all cost, so all it took was getting in bed with one of them. Once Trump was associated with Russia, the whole party and media apparatus became pro Russia.

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They didn’t just pay trump, they paid a lot of them…

It doesn’t cost much in campaign donations to buy a politician, especially a House republican.

Could be as cheap as 5-10k for both primary leaders.

If they take it and win, Russia now has blackmail on them.

That’s practically nothing to another country.

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35 points

Don’t forget when both Democratic and Republican parties servers were hacked back in 2015. Things were leaked from the Democrats, but nothing came out on the Republicans. Nice to have that info hanging over their heads…

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They’ve been working for years, arguable since the run up to the 2016 elections when they started becoming active in Trump and Sanders communities online

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Serious question…Why are these Republicans so pro-Russia? I don’t get it.

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Because they envy Putin’s oligarchy and the nationalism of the Russian population which makes them easy to control.

Make no mistake - these people want Gilead more than anything. I mean they literally keep saying it over and over again. They are domestic terrorists and enemies of the west. And everyone is going to pretend like this is a “difference of opinion” until it is too late.

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Own the libs

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Money. There’s no way Russia/rich people/criminals aren’t playing with these people. My conspiracy is that these people are so dumb they don’t know that they are being used or they are just really narcissistic.

Edited…

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hold on what are you on about this is so vague, are you saying theres vast criminal networks in yiur hometown hiding in plain sight? im so confused

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Luckily

Yeah, I wanna hear more about this!

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11 points

What about Russia would they dislike?

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Well they’re always yelling about how liberals are socialist or communist, and Russia was previously socialist and communist. Also they say they don’t like government to control things, and the Russian government controls everything. They hate on NPR and call it state sponsored, while all Russian media is state sponsored. So yeah, you would think they wouldn’t like Russia, but only if you thought they actually believe the shit they say.

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and Russia was previously socialist and communist

The current Russian regime uses heavy Anti-Soviet messaging, and demonizes socialism as much as American conservative politics. The USSR wasn’t great for a lot of Russians.

Also they say they don’t like government to control things

I think emphasis here needs to be on “they say”, yet most non-economic policy American conservatives tout (aka the culture wars) is about injecting more government intervention in the day to day lives of Americans. Ex: Christian Prayer in schools, banning books from libraries, anti-drag bills, banning racial-inequality education, anti-gay legislation, the list goes on and on. American conservatives would love as much control over their population as Russia exerts on theirs.

They hate on NPR and call it state sponsored

Which fits their narrative, when in reality NPR only receives around 5% of government funding. They don’t like NPR because they aren’t easily able to be bought due to being largely crowd funded and won’t immediately parrot their talking points. They would love a state funded media company that parroted their talking points which Fox News comfortably does.

If American conservatives actually believed the their talking points then yes they would be vehemently anti-Russian, but they don’t. They’re only pro-power which the Russian government has figured out within their borders.

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Also they say they don’t like government to control things

They don’t like not their government to control things.

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They’re probably just not getting a piece of all that laundered money from the US defense contractors

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Ever since Trump they’ve taken a strange faux “anti-interventionism” isolationist perspective. This is why they have pulled back from Afghanistan, tried to ease tensions with Russia and generally focused on their “American jobs” rhetoric. It is obviously not applied consistently, like anything in the United States since the preamble to the declaration of independence saying “We hold this truths to be self evident that all men are created equal”, but this is somewhat consistent with their newer Dovish and isolationist insistence of avoiding getting tangled into conflicts abroad. Ironically for all his racist base and his constant hawkish and white supremacist rhetoric, Trump is one of the few modern Presidents to not have started any significant military intervention abroad. They have however also done a heck of a job making life as a minority in the USA way worse and wasted a ton of potential with the trade war on China and also the atrocity of giving moral/covert support to fascists abroad.

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Because they think it’s a stupid proxy war that doesn’t serve the US (because it strengthens BRICS which hurts the Petro Dollar) and that US support for Ukraine is a ploy to ensure that supposed US funded biolabs (that are pretty much confirmed to exist, afaik) aren’t uncovered, because Joe and Hunter Biden are likely to be involved in them via the company Metabiota.

I’m as irritated as everyone else because it’s usually not the Republicans to be the sane ones but it seems the Democrats are even more corrupt nowadays. The FBI is actively trying to suppress evidence of bribery of a sitting President and it’s even denying answering Congress (or Senate? Not 100% sure which one, I’m not an American) inquiries.

The world has gone mad.

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Wow. Everything you just said was wrong. This war has empowered NATO and the US more than every action taken by the US in the last 20 years combined. The biolabs theory is a joke as is the idea that a republican FBI director appointed by Trump would protect Biden. I always hear about how non Americans have a better perspective on US news, but deluded misinfo like this makes me believe that idea is bullshit.

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There’s been lots of mainstream reporting on the corruption allegations and the Senate/Congress hearing where the FBI chief kept on repeating the same evasive non-answers I mentioned were livestreamed. Can provide some sources once I’m back at home, though, if requested.

I’m usually not in a debating mood when people just start calling me a liar though. I’m not even in favor of republicans/centrists and I consider myself an anarchist more than anything else so I’m not really into partisanship here. 🤷‍♂️

I’m perfectly fine with people having different opinions and arriving at different conclusions but just calling me a liar when I can back up my claims is no good style.

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This is your brain on lead dust.

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It hurts the petro dollar? Oh no!

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Republicans and Democrats are both part of a disfunction machine.

And alot of people are naive to how raw and evil life can be.

I lean left more than right but I don’t want to support either side. It’s all power games and greed… Just look at BLM (the organization not the idea) and maga. They are great examples. Both corrupted organizations.

We shouldn’t be picking sides anymore… We should be living to our independent potential but we never will because both sides take soul as a trade for an idea of false security in a world where no man or organization can control universal law but they keep killing to try to.

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35 points

Remember when a certain senator stood before the house with two blank pieces of paper and said most democrats supported Russia?

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Remember when a certain republican said that Russia was the biggest geopolitical threat facing America and all the Democrats laughed at him?

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6 points

I actually don’t remember that, who was it?

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4 points

Magic underwear man

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2 points

Romney, everyone laughed and said it’s not the Cold War era anymore. Little did they know he was 100% correct seeing how Russia had already invaded Georgia a few years prior

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Have you seen that video where Xi Jinping and Putin shake hands and basically announce that they intend to upend the existing global order, meaning US “rules based” hegemony?

Russia itself isn’t a threat but so far it’s brought together China, Iran and parts of Africa that are done with US colonization and living under the US’ boot.

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China has its own imperial ambitions in Africa. There’s no good super power, but at the end of the day, Russia was the one that invaded Ukraine. No amount of RT propaganda will change that.

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Too many of them are beholden to Russia and its interests and have been for some time. Not only that, but also just doing the opposite of whatever Democrats support which isn’t constructive at all.

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Republican policies boil down to

  • Opposing “the commies”;
  • Guns.

Wait. How did they end up in bed with Russia?

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You forgot “anti-woke”

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But I said opposing th—

AH, you’re right.

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Oh man they are definitely on the same wave with Russian government on this one. Just yesterday Russia banned all and any gender transition therapy/surgery. I wouldn’t be surprised if someone particular started pushing for similar stuff in the US.

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Russia isn’t communist.

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Money.

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The “opposing the commies” bit used to be an anti-authoritarian stance. But now republicans have openly embraced autocracy as political language. It makes perfect sense from that angle.

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Sure it is constructive. The billionaires’ main goal is to DDos the system and limit time and resources devoted to legitimate legislation. The goal is to keep the US extremely under legislated so their corrupt loopholes stay open. The nonsense is irrelevant. The time it takes to deal with the nonsense is all that maters.

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