1. It doesn’t make you anonymous. Torrent protocol wasn’t designed with anonymity in mind and there are a million ways you’re going to leak your actual IP address.
  2. Tor is a TCP only network.
  3. While this doesn’t give you the anonymity you wanted, it will hurt the network for other users.
105 points

For bittorrent and p2p it is better to use i2p, tor only to surf the internet.

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58 points

Mind giving a little info about i2p for the clueless?

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I2P is a P2P darknet. on tor the network is run by volenteers (~6000 nodes) while on I2P everyone on the nerwork is a node, and their are no built in exit nodes (in i2p their called outproxies). the official I2P router has a built in torrent client as well. like torrents the more people on i2p the faster the network, while the opposite is true for tor.

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It is a different anonymity network, which works differently in many aspects.

I2P and Tor comparison: https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor
I2P on Bittorrent (mostly a client dev guide, but has some interesting info): https://geti2p.net/en/docs/applications/bittorrent

Currently BiglyBt supports I2P and it has been that way for quite some time.
If you use qBittorrent, I2P support will come in version 4.6. you can try it out now with the published release candidate version. Probably other clients are working on it too as the support is coming from the libtorrent programming library, which is used by other clients too.

Right now, I2P is quite slow in my experience, in terms of loading I2P websites. I hope that it’s just a misconfiguration on my part, or that these specific sites I tried are just overloaded.

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Near as I can tell:

Tor is about privacy (and is prone to being compromised but…). So long as the exit nodes are in “friendly” countries and are run by trustworthy individuals (…), you are “safe”. And that is why it is popular among journalists. The downside being that a lot of heinous shit is done on Tor and those exit nodes are potentially liable for them.

I2P is about avoiding censorship. Everyone is an exit node and cops kicking down doors doesn’t significantly hurt the network.

But… I would very much NOT use that for torrenting. Because the endpoints can still be detected and recorded. And “I wasn’t downloading that Tay Swizzle concert, I was just letting potentially thousands of other people use my computer to download it… Why did you suddenly start laughing and talking about The Pirate Bay?”.

And that also ignores the “darker” parts of the dark web. Where, rather than getting a letter from the MPAA you get a visit from Chris Hansen.

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There’s an i2p community here on lemmy. Click my username for a link.

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32 points

Indeed.

Torrenting over I2P is the future. No need for VPN and no dependency on donated bandwidth like with Tor.

The technology needs a bit of refinement and it seems they are struggling to attract and maintain good developers.

In my opinion, the fundamental protocols of I2P need a revamp to make torrenting faster and more efficient.

It will take a few years before we solve these problems.

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6 points

I2P is still around? I remember experimenting with it a decade ago. Sounds like it’s still a slow experience.

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It’s not super fast but it’s more then usable, you just need to get lucky with fast routers in your tunnels

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I pay monthly for access to a SOCKS5 proxy service from a company called BTGuard, and tell my BT client to connect through that. It is not expensive and works great I’ve been using it for about 12 or 13 years, and found it after getting an email from my ISP saying they identified me downloading TV shows. In that time, I have only had issues a handful of times. More reliable than most other services I pay for and I’ve never seen another DMCA notice since.

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BTGuard

Expensive VPN with less features. Probably made sense 12 or 13 years ago.

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I do not use their VPN, just the socks5 proxy, so I can’t comment. It’s $6.95 USD monthly. Costs less than a meal out. Do you have an alternative that is less expensive with no catches or limits? I’m all ears. Serious. I’m always willing to try other stuff. Any socks5 proxy service that costs less.

I just don’t get calling it expensive. It’s not really.

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Mullvad costs $5 and Im not aware of any catches Would be glad if others pointed out if there are any Actual VPN, socks5 proxy available

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Most providers have long-term plans for less - like $3/month for 2-3 years. That’s still the cost of eating a few meals out. Some of them even have port forwarding. Why spend double the money for less features?

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I didn’t think people torrented over TOR. Aside from the security issues (which I didn’t know about in the first place), I would think it’s gotta be insanely slow. Is it not?

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I keeps getting brought up because TOR is the most popular anonymizing network. It’s not far-fetched to think “how can I make myself anonymous while torrenting?” search for “how to be anonymous online”, find TOR and put two and two together. It happens all the time, which is why the blog post by TOR was made about it.

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Gotcha, yeah that checks out. I guess I never made that connection, even though I use TOR and torrent here and there. Probably also because I’m more concerned about download speeds over privacy when torrenting. And regular web traffic over TOR is often insanely slow compared to the clearnet.

Ever since getting a copyright strike several years ago, I’ve switched to using a commercial VPN while torrenting. I don’t know if that’s the all-in-one solution for hiding from my ISP, but it seems to work. But I also rarely torrent these days, too, so not as many opportunities for them to catch me, I suppose.

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is it okay if I download a .torrent file from private trackers through TOR browser?

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I wouldn’t bother tbh. As soon as you start using it in your torrent client other users can see your IP address anyway.

Seedboxes are a pretty good solution.

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Unless you use a VPN or proxy.

Seedboxes are good but only seem worth the cost if you’re utilizing it a lot/frequently?

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The cost is reasonable, you can get 1tb of storage for around £10 a month. Most Seedboxes will let you install VPN servers on them as well, I’m not sure what you pay for specific VPN software nowadays. So you could theoretically replace Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu etc and have a VPN.

They’re basically required for building ratio on private trackers nowadays.

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18 points

Yes, but make sure to use a VPN or a Seedbox for the actual torrenting

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2 points

Not always needed with private trackers.

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I’d err on the side of caution. I always use a VPN for privacy reasons, my ISP doesn’t need to know what websites I’m visiting and which P2P protocols I use. Also, there’s no need to expose my approximate geographical location to every service I connect to.

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Use a seedbox IMO although with private trackers you’re generally pretty safe.

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Fine for Tor. But check the rules first so you don’t get banned for duplicate IP.

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