Recently, many of our anti-Zionists posts have been downvoted to oblivion by liberals. As hexberians realized a while back, downvotes only help liberals since they are more numerous and they don’t need to engage in discourse. I am proposing to just get rid of downvotes and instead engage in discourse on content that we disagree on.

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As an outside observer, I will state that I was pretty strongly against removing downvotes until we actually did, and it only took me about a month until I turned on my position. Removing downvotes is good, actually

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Yep, agreed. Removing downvotes was the best idea we ever had, and they should be removed entirely from the Lemmy codebase.

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Maybe it could be kept track of, and past some threshold downvotes could be disabled for like, idk, a week? Something like that could allow for experimenting and ease folks into it.

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A week gives plenty of time to liberals to bregade posts though. Getting rid of them once and for all is the best course of action.

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Is it possible to disabled downvotes per-community? A mix of gradual rollouts, trial runs, and/or community feedback posts would probably work well. How you all do demcent is up to you of course, but this has worked well for Hexbear.

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I think both upvotes and downvotes should be removed. I do not like the idea of there being “scores” for posts. It makes posting feel needlessly competitive.

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I think it’s an improvement over the old BBS style “last replied to at the top” and also naturally integrates the replies that are “broad agreement but nothing to add” (e.g. “this”) for measuring a particular thread’s engagement.

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I strongly agree with this. A problem might be the way sorting works, a comment at the top would have the implicit perception of a higher score, even with hidden scores.

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Not a grad user, but replying to say I would love to try out an instance which implements this.

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You can already effectively do this by

  • Going into your settings and hiding vote scores.
  • Change default sorting to New
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remove downvotes, remove upvotes, remove images and make the site look a usenet BBS from 1989 and I’m not joking

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So Metafilter plus communities (although they did add upvoting eventually)?

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If we remove downvotes we will no longer be able to downvote libs who wander in here and shit on the floor.

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Downvoting is the cowards way out. We either engage on discourse with them or report them if they are violating the rules.

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If we had more emotes I’d be fine to get rid of downvotes. But not every lib deserves a real response. In the absence of PPB a downvote is our current option.

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Instead of downvoting, could you just ignore their comment? Libs take way more advantage of downvotes to sway the algorithm their way than we do and they use downvotes against us way more than we use downvotes against them. Aren’t we better than them?

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Consider that that’s easily said when one isn’t on the hook for doing the moderation labor.

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