Maybe they should be expanding their physical network first. I waited seven years after they supposedly came to my hometown, and their coverage area barely moved. Most of that is absolutely the fault of AT&T and Comcast stonewalling pole installations but they have the money to put up their own damn poles made of gold after that 77 billion profit report.
Now I moved elsewhere after covid and of course the only two real options still suck uncontrollably with no hope of any other big mover creating actual competition.
i am also incredibly disappointed in their lack of achievement here. they have a metric shit-tonne of liquid cash, lawyers and tech out the butthole… but no… were back to ma’ bell still coagulating ala T2.
so much for being different
Google fiber has been supposed to be coming to the west side of Atlanta for like 10 plus years. Hasnt an expanded at all . Yet they still keep that message coming soon to your neighborhood up. And somehow where I am only one option available. Fucking shitty Comcast
There’s vaults labeled “GFBR” 200 yards from my house on the east side, and it’s still “coming soon.” Meanwhile, AT&T is out here digging every 2 years.
Something something ISPs forcing municipalities to create service monopolies?
you should feel bad for everyone in the u.s. that have to suffer the government(s) that allow this bullshit to even be a problem.
I wouldn’t want to calculate what it’d cost to replace all my switches with 25G capable ones… then all the network cards… You’d have to have a really specific application to justify it.
Just cost me 1K to replace 3 NICs, 1 router, and 2 switches to freaking 2.5Gb.
I got one of the 2.5 x 8 + 10 switches StH reviewed for like $80, and x520 nics are $20. I’m happy with it for homelab stuff!
10Gbps used enterprise equipment is pretty cheap on eBay. Biggest problem I’ve had is getting compatible SFP+ adapters for the NICs.
Flexoptix reprogrammable tranceivers are a godsend for that. We use them almost exclusively at work and so do quite a few of ours customers (Universities and other places of higher education). But it’s probably hard to justify the cost of a reprogrammer box for a household. You can buy their transceivers pre-programmed though.
FScom has something similar, but I can’t vouch for those, never tried. Their patch cables are fine though.
You won’t but I will
Switch: mikrotik CRS504-4XQ-IN ($799.99) Cabling: QSFP28 to 4 x 25G SFP28 DAC ($63.00 per cable) NICs: Intel XXV710 25GB ($349.0)
I don’t know how many machines you have so for two machine it’s cost you $1562.97 and maxing out the switch would cost you $6651.83 but do you really have sixteen machines that need or can even physically saturate a 25GB line?
I think it’s more reasonable to get something similar to ubiquiti’s USW-Pro-Aggregation and have three machines capable of the full speed and 28 machines capable of half rate speeds (at a much lower cost per machine)
I just want an internet provider that isn’t Spectrum or single-digit download speeds. Not having any real choice fucking sucks, especially since Spectrum is horrible.
Had AT&T fiber at my old place and god damn that shit went down one time for an hour the whole 3 and a half years I was there
Have you looked at mobile broadband from T-Mobile or Verizon? I haven’t tried either personally but I know if I were in a broadband desert or an oligopoly market like most Americans I would definitely give it a try and see how performance is. Prices weren’t great when released, maybe $50+/mo. for home internet, you can get $ 30-40/mo around here from fixed line providers CenturyLink, FiOS/ziply, or comcrap; feel like the mobile Carriers really missed an opportunity at not pricing it cheaper to add a ton of subs or at least get people to try.
I was involved in one of these Google fiber roll outs several years ago, Google simply doesn’t know what the fuck they want or what they are doing as far as installing outside plant goes.
EDIT: To clarify, they simultaneously had no fucking clue what they were doing & also wanted to micromanage all of their contractors.
Google really doesn’t know what it wants in general besides more profit. Like the killed by google is impressive.
If you’re struggling to think of a use-case, consider the internet-based services that are commonplace now that weren’t created until infrastructure advanced to the point they were possible, if not “obvious” in retrospect.
- multimedia websites
- real-time gaming
- buffered audio – and later video – streaming
- real-time video calling (now even wirelessly, like Star Trek!)
- nearly every office worker suddenly working remotely at the same time
My personal hope is that abundant, bidirectional bandwidth and IPv6 adoption, along with cheap SBC appliances and free software like Nextcloud, will usher in an era where the average Joe can feel comfortable self-hosting their family’s digital content, knowing they can access it from anywhere in the world and that it’s safely backed up at each member’s home server.
Video calls were all over 1950s futurism articles. These things do get anticipated far ahead of time.
4K Blu-ray discs have a maximum bitrate of 128 Mbps. Most streaming services compress more heavily than that; they’re closer to 30 to 50 Mbps. A 1Gbps feed can easily handle several people streaming 4K video on the same connection provided there’s some quality of service guarantees.
If other tech were there, we could likely stream a fully immersive live VR environment to nearly holodeck-level realism on 1Gbps.
IPv6 is the real blocker. As you say, self-hosting is what could really bring bandwidth usage up. I think some kind of distributed system (something like BitTorrent) is more likely than files hosted on one specific server, at least for publicly available files.
I doubt a home server centered around software like nextcloud would ever become commonplace. I think a more probable solution involves integrating new use cases with devices people already have, or at least familiar form factors. For example, streaming from your smart TV device (chromecast, Roku, Apple TV, the actual TV itself) instead of from the cloud, or file sync using one of these devices as an always-on server. But, in both of these cases, there is in inherit benefit from using a centralized cloud operator. What are the odds that you have already downloaded the episode to stream to your TV box, but not your phone if that was where you intended to watch it anyways? And for generic storage, cloud providers replicate that data for you in various locations to ensure higher redundancy and availability than what could be guaranteed simply from a home server or similar device. I presume new use cases will need to be more creative.
