And you know who I also don’t condemn?
The IRA
The Viet Minh
John Brown
Haitian slaves who revolted
Native American fighters
Black Panthers
National Liberation Front (Algeria)
Nelson Mandela
The 26th of July Movement
Every one of them were called “terrorists” or something equivalent at some point. Now think about who’s on the opposite of this list. Apartied South Africa, slavers, settlers, Zionists, the US government… There is only one moral and just side to be on and it’s not even a discussion.
Nelson Mandela is a good historical figure to bring up in this context. Liberals love him for his rehabilitated image as a peace negotiator, but he didn’t go to prison for writing letters to the editor.
Nelson Mandela was literally considered a terrorist by the US government until 2008
They repeatedly offered to release him from jail in exchange for denouncing socialism. He did no such thing. He also reached a point where he refused to condemn violent rebellion because the non-violence wasn’t getting the goods. What liberals unknowingly worship him for, in their civility fetishism, is his acts of public reconciliation with the colonizers. Would have been good to get that post-apartheid wealth redistribution instead but what’s done is done.
unarmed Palestinians did peaceful Great March of Return throughout 2018 and were cut down in the thousands by IOF snipers who were having competitions to see how many people they could maim
so done with this historically ignorant moralizing shit about nonviolence from liberals
peaceful protest? yeah hooray let me march with you haha
UH ERM VIOLENCE? THAT’S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GET THINGS DONE !!!1!!!1
all it takes to piss off a liberal is telling them that actual real change doesn’t happen with signing petitions and holding hands. no government gives a single shit or fuck about your lip service and will continue to steamroll oppressed groups regardless
UH ERM VIOLENCE? THAT’S NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GET THINGS DONE !!!1!!!1
They all just need to vote harder!
vote harder
yeah - kinetically.
I kinetically vote to remove fash from my local area
I’d like to hear someone go full cheeky on the “condemn hamas” thing and be all “well actually Hamas had good intelligence that the IDF was embedded with those concertgoers so that was just collateral damage.”
I hate the framing of Hamas as terrorists, if they are considered terrorists, The IOF should be too.
I was reading the 1988 charter and there are parts of it that are sketchy and contain anti semitic stuff, like saying that Jews control the world and media and that they use groups like the Freemasons to push the Zionist agenda. I think there is one quote about killing jews. But in the same charter they talk about aoming for Muslims, Christians and Jews to live peacefully together as they had after the Islamic conquest in the 7th century. And I recognize that the formation of Hamas is a reaction to colonization, displacement, murder and torture. Also I know they did re-write the charter in 2017 to explicitly state that they are militantly against the Zionist occupation and not Jews. It’s interesting and evokes a lot of different conflicting feelings for me, I just would be super curious to see an interview with someone who has been part of Hamas for decades speak on this
Edit: I’m working on a very brief history of Palestine and I’m finally working on 1988-1995 so there is probably a lot of context I’m missing at this point in the history too and am really curious to keep moving forward and learn about it.
The IOF should be too.
Well, they are.
I don’t know if Hamas are the jihadist nationalist fundamentalists they’re painted as, or will they turn out to be modern progressive freedom fighters after the fog of war fades after our generations are gone, but at least the IOF atrocities are known.
Not that the knowledge helps with the indifference of those who could do something smh
