Sousou no Frieren, episode 8
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The way Demons think in this show is a lot like LLM Chat AIs like ChatGPT work. They don’t really think too much, not in the way humans do, but they excel at producing something that humans approve of. If you don’t probe them too much, they look just like humans. But if you probe too far you see that their behavior is a facade and that their underlying thoughts are not like humans, and they don’t necessarily even understand the words they use to appease humans. What happens when their facade improves? If a demon spent its entire life perfectly acting as a nice and thoughtful human, never causing any harm, would you still call it a monster?
Demons and LLM Chat AIs differ in what their underlying thoughts are. LLM Chat AIs generally want approval. On the other hand, Demons want to survive and eat humans. They use language to manipulate humans and get what they want.
I mean, we have that back story with the demon child. It looked like it successfully lived with humans for a good while. But it failed when it killed the mayor to take his daughter. That misunderstanding on it’s part led to every human in the village suddenly turning on them.
If it had not failed there, it could possibly have still been living with the town in peace. Or it would have failed some other way eventually and had to kill everyone.
That’s a good analogy - specially because LLMs don’t handle language on a conceptual level, like we do; only the surface, like taxidermy. Demons work a bit different in this aspect because they show cognitive comprehension of what is said, but Frieren herself highlights that they’re just mimicking human behaviour.
Been a while since I read this part of the manga, but I’m really hyped for the next episode.
Episodes like this are why I love this series so much.
Graf acting as a reasonable person in power. Stark being afraid, but still willing to fight. Stark and Fern planning shit out. Fern inheriting her fighting style from Frieren. Flamme protecting a sapling on a whim. All of that so well tied together, in a simple good vs. evil struggle.
Oh no! Another cliffhanger >.>
Kinda wish I had waited until this season was over so I could binge it, I have such little patience, but then I wouldn’t have been able to participate in these discussion threads so I guess it’s not all bad!
For me the painful part is to not babble manga spoilers in this sort of discussion. Like, I know what’s going to happen and I’m excited to talk about it, but… got to wait until the right episode to do so!
Yeah what I’m looking forward to would require a second season of 24 episodes to reach, but it will be glorious when it does.
Frieren has no chill, Draht’s death was brutal.
