>buy serverless cloud
>look inside
>servers
Ah yes, the age old “if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?”
It’s not serverless, it’s just someone else’s server
Don’t have to patch the host at least… I think we have a 6 week sla for certain compliances to ensure we are patching our containers, code, and deps regularly.
Exactly, it is as much serverless as the offering that allowed to host php sites back in the day.
Serverless is more associated with micro services where each micro service can scale independently from each other.
I’m as critical as the next guy of how overused and abused serverless/microservice architectures can be, but there’s disliking something and being completely disingenuous. Some of the comments every time the subject is even remotely mentioned fall into the latter. This time is not the exception lol
I mean that’s generally the case with most tech. Just like the never ending PHP hate. Plenty of reasons to dislike or not use it but no reason to think it’s the scum of the earth.
On a tangent, I imagine PHP is still one of the most used backends. Wordpress uses PHP and I wouldn’t be surprised if 50% or more of the websites I visited are Wordpress sites. So I guess many others experience the same?
Plus, Facebook literally forked PHP and still uses it, and is one of the most popular sites on the internet
Yeah… Indeed, our field is pretty prone to weird tribalism and jumping on bandwagons. Still, I dislike that just as much lol
For sure. People find a niche they like and then think that is the solution to any problem. Until, of course, some new shiny tech catches their eye and they try that out (or their favorite clickbait Medium writer comes out with an article about “Why you shouldn’t be using ____ anymore in 2023”). Then the love of their life gets thrown to the curb.
I think it’s a maturity thing. You eventually see so many trends come and go, peaks and troughs of hype cycles and some developers (probably including yourself at least once!) overusing certain new tech.
You eventually discover what works with current tech and then you can become healthily critical of anything new. You see it more for where it can fit and where it can’t.
If you have something small and stateless then serverless is easy and, more importantly, scalable. It was a little easier to see its role once the hype fog had lifted and I had a problem to solve with it.
see so many trends come and go
It’s interesting how things are cyclical. Serverless functions remind me of cgi-bin scripts.
Yep, it’s usually an existing idea with progression in a few areas. You could definitely achieve serverless with a cluster of servers hosting the same scripts in cgi-bin and I think that context helps to put it into perspective.
Eli5 server less, even on paper…
Instead of spinning up a classical server like Apache or IIS for what you need, you just write a single function that you can bind to an endpoint and just host that - the rest is abstracted away from you.
Serverless sounds like a terrible name for this lmao.
Why not remote functions or something like that.
Marketing™️ I guess? :P
But probably because YOU don’t have to fuck around with servers, for you it’s just an upload of a function.
Someone else has a server and their infrastructure is set up so you can upload a zip of some executable and they’ll figure out how to make it run. You don’t worry about any details except your code and whatever API is require to be compatible, and they worry about hosting it, making sure it has memory, CPU time, disk space, DB, etc.
So it’s essentially the same as shared web hosting, just masquerading as a new concept. 15 years ago I’d deploy PHP sites by uploading them via FTP to some free web hosting company.
