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I’ve never understood the whole waterproof thing. I’ve never been in an instance where my phone was in any danger of getting wet. I get float trips and stuff but that seems like an uncommon case and even then there are ways to waterproof a phone temporarily.

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You don’t use your phone on the bathroom or the kitchen? It never rains where you live? You never keep your phone in your pocket next to a sweaty leg?

I want a phone that can survive minor issues. I don’t want a phone that will die because it slipped into the sink while washing my hands or something like that. A degree of being waterproof does that.

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This. If you really want to take your phone on your extreme surfing adventure, just put it in a waterproof case!

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People mount phones to bike handlebars for navigation. Then it starts raining.

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That seems like an edge case though.

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I don’t think a phone needs to be 100% waterproof to 50 metres, but some amount of water-resistance is just good product design. Companies should not be encouraging people to dunk their phones in water, I think IP ratings sadly encourage this as well as some of the advertising around their water resistance claims.

But having some amount of water resistance built into electronics helps reduce e-waste because accidents do happen. For more serious water activities people should be buying waterproof bags for their electronics.

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Motorola Defy was waterproof with removable battery. A small switch locked the cover in place with a rubber gasket. This was over 10 years ago.

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No it doesn’t. you have have IP68 and a removable battery. What’s not as easy it making them paper-thin as the battery needs to have structural integrity of its own.

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My old Galaxy S5 was water resistant (IP67, 30min/1 metre submerged)

The rear cover had a gasket to prevent water entering the motherboard, micro sd, battery, sim etc.

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I might be in the minority here, but I feel this is actually a step back.

In the 5 years I’ve had my phone, there have been two times I’ve ever really needed to pull the battery, and still the hard reset sequence still eventually worked in both cases.

Anyone remember how some phones had issues with the battery door becoming somewhat loose over time, causing any slight bump to turn the phone off? Many have already commented on how they explode into multiple pieces when dropped. Traditionally the battery covers are incredibly flimsy plastic, even on flagship devices (cough Samsung). Waterproofing is a common concern too, however it actually can be done with a removable battery (e.g. Galaxy S5).

What really needed to be addressed here was how cumbersome it is to get into these devices to replace the battery, and how often people are price gouged to replace them. I believe this could have been better written to allow for either a removable battery, or a standardized and affordable built-in battery replacement process.

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This will come into play at roughly the same time that solid state batteries will make battery replacement mostly irrelevant. We’ll see some terrible designs to accommodate battery replacements that, for the most part, won’t be used.

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I’ll believe that once I see it… We have been told the era of next gen batteries is just around the corner every year since the iPhone came out now. We’re still using some version of lithium based tech in most applications where power density is important (phones, laptops, cars, etc.)

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Good point.

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I actually love all these regulations on smartphones (mainly by the EU), like the recent USB-C standard. That one in particular makes it so much easier to share chargers around the house!

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USB-type C to become EU’s common charger by end of 2024

I mean… Sure, but we’ve had USB-C as de facto standard for many years now. When was the last time you saw a micro USB phone?

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I don’t want to brag but my 5 yo phone is micro USB. B)

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Couldn’t agree more, two years ago I was gifted a small wireless speaker which works fine and everything but I sometimes even forget to charge it because its cable is a 15cm short USB-A to Micro-USB one which somehow is the only Micro-USB cable I have left at home as I didn’t have any other device with that port in years and I had thrown away a few cables when I last moved. Now whenever I am looking for a new electronic device USB-C is one of the first things I check and it’s a deal breaker for me.

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USB-C is standard for Android devices, but Apple devices still use lightning.

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I know, but the person I was replying to made it sound like EU regulation is to thank for Android devices having USB-C

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As a USA citizen, thanks EU for making our cellphone companies not be dick’s.

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EU votes to increase phone prices for swappable batteries. video says it’s great. skip skip scroll

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This is awesome. Thank god for EU legislation that directly benefits me as an American consumer. Now I can microwave lithium ion batteries in peace!

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I recently read an article how indeed American consumers benefit from European regulations as often it is easier to make one product that fits all the market than multiple variations of it.

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