"I believed our ranks were filled with people like me that opposed Hitler’s far right policies, not Lebensraum itself. "

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The Zionist insistence on smearing all Jewish people with the crimes of the Zionist entity is antisemitic.

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“all Jews are bloodthirsty colonizers” is fucked up and antisemitic but Israel says it constantly.

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I’m reminded of Fanon’s observation that the colonial dehumanization of the colonized subject also requires that colonizers dehumanize themselves.

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hooks says more or less the same thing about patriarchy; Before you can create a man who serves the patriarchy you have to beat all the compassion and humanity out of a little boy.

You have to make monsters, you can’t just go dig them out of cave like in Narnia or whatever.

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If you support Israel then you aren’t a leftist. Leftists don’t support imperialist ethnostates.

I honestly don’t understand how anyone could call themself a leftist and not know about the free palestine movement, it’s one of the issues real leftists are very loud about.

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And it’s not like a new thing either. I remember Palestinian flags being waved at leftist demonstrations as far back as the mid 2000’s.

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Lol the mid 2000s? You ever heard of the FLQ? The mostly Marxist Quebec Libération Front of the 60s? They were training in Jordan with the PLO/PFLP. As did the German RAF, Ulrike Meinhof was injured with a grenade there.

https://cjs.journals.yorku.ca/index.php/cjs/article/view/40170

The Anti-Israel Movement in Québec in the 1970s: At the Ideological Crossroads of the New Left and Liberation-Nationalism

Since the late 1950s, Third World nationalism in Algeria, Vietnam, and the Middle East had fascinated radical Quebec nationalists. Quebec nationalism’s militant arm, the Front de libération du Québec (FLQ), styled itself as a national-liberation movement fighting against Anglo-Canadian exploitation and oppression. After the Six-Day-War, the PLO became a significant source of inspiration for these elements. Quebec was their Palestine, as one prominent Quebec Nationalist asserted. This militant Quebec nationalism coincided and often overlapped with the rise of the New Left at Quebec’s universities and in its unions. Like its European and American counterparts, the Quebec New Left adopted the ideologies of anti-imperialism and anti-Zionism, and in 1972, the Quebec-Palestine Association was established in this milieu. Anti-imperialism combined the Marxist analysis of class struggle with a nationalistic worldview, which saw the world divided between oppressor and oppressed nations. For the New Left, Israel became the epitome of an oppressor nation. It was associated with all the supposed vices of the West: Racism, capitalism, inauthenticity, and militarism. This paper sheds light on the founding years of the Quebec anti-Zionist movement in the early 1970 and discusses the themes and images it used to describe Israel and the Arab-Israeli conflict.

For a more American perspective, Malcom X was always Anti-Zionist.

It was Malcolm who warned us in his lifetime about the damage being done to the Palestinians, before any other African American leader or civil rights organization, just as he would take on the Vietnam War before anyone else would.

The Zionist Logic - Malcom X

The Israeli Zionists are convinced they have successfully camouflaged their new kind of colonialism.

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Imagine going back to the 70s or 80s and telling them they were living through the high water mark of communist internationalism. Well, at least in the west, i guess. idk.

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I didn’t mean to imply that was the start of the left’s support for Palestine. I was only speaking from first hand experience, for as long as I’ve been active in leftist circles, there has been strong support for the Palestinians. Thanks for the info though.

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I remember catching shit from libs that folks wearing Keffiyehs just didn’t understand the complicated politics of the middle east! :hardwringing: back in the 90s and 00s.

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Excuse me what about the wholesome chungus kibbutz? It only even has a small emotional support IOF base that everyone works at.

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Confession: I’ve incorrectly assumed the far left doesn’t have an anti-genocide problem. I believed our ranks were filled with people like me that opposed blowing up children’s hospitals, not blowing up hospitals itself.

That is clearly not true.

I’m embarrassed I didn’t see this sooner

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Well put, but also when more than 40% of the population is under 14 and the median age of the country is less than 20 years old, every hospital is a children’s hospital.

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Word. If we assume that most Palestinian troops are younger than 25 then most of them have likely never been outside Gaza, certainly not at a time they could remember.

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Yeah I just… while I’m not one of the people that’s like "hell yeah hamas kill the kkkolonizers* ", I mean the US and Israel picked them and supported them because of how bad they are. But whenever I see a Hamas or other Palestinian militant group, regardless of how right wing they are, I can’t help but think these are literally baby prisoners, these are the actual babies that survived being born and raised in a literal concentration camp

There’s a video where they bust through the fence and start walking and half of them just start crying. Like what the fuck, it’s so fucked up

*active settlers are not civilians

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Israel is not a race. And much as it claims to, it doesn’t speak for an entire race either.

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It sucks. Like Wu is iffy on a good day, but just straight up buying in to “All Jewish people are Zionists” right now is… idk, shit sucks.

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“If you, a Jew, do not want to be a sniveling lapdog to America, the country that has treated you like vermin throughout history and at best is treating you like useful vermin you, you’re an antisemite.”

TIL not bending over to white Christians as their loyal kapo makes me an antisemite.

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shut up and cause the apocalypse!! cause the apocalypse!!

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Ok (in a posadist way.)

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