China has released new guidelines on generative AI services, limiting their public use while encouraging industrial development.

Reuters reported the Cyberspace Administration of China (CAC) softened its stance compared to draft rules in April. These new interim regulations will take effect on August 15th. The guidelines only affect organizations offering generative AI services to the public. Other entities developing the same technology but not for mass-market use do not fall under the measures.

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“core values of socialism”? Like reintroducing landleeches after they were outlawed? Like allowing the bourgeoise to own the means of production and exploit the over a billion working class Chinese people in horrible conditions? Using the profit motive to “incentivize entrepreneurship”?

China is the epitome of SINO, they’re an authoritarian capitalist regime.

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Crazy how people think they’re communist when the state owns much of the means of production and has no interest in handing it over to the actual proletariat. It’s state capitalism. They literally have the second highest number of billionaires in the world.

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Focus on creating revolution in your country before you go telling other people how to run their experiment.

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I didn’t tell anyone how to run anything, I pointed out how they’re an entirely capitalist nation that pretends to be socialist. Maybe the current authoritarian regime will suddenly revert all the market reforms they’ve implemented over the last 3-4 decades, seize the means of production, and then dissolve the state when it’s no longer needed.

I don’t believe this will happen, and I don’t think many people do. Most of the “socialists” that support China are more than happy with the bourgeoise class existing and exploiting working class people “for the betterment of the State”. This kind of thinking falls much more in line with Mussolini than Marx.

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I think things are more nuanced in China than most people give credit for. The difference between the market system in China versus the market system in the United States is that in China, Business is subordinate to the Party, while in America, the Parties are subordinate to Business.

Communist Party leaders don’t need campaign donations from billionaires to win elections, and every business of substantial size has party officials stationed in their offices to check for compliance with State mandates. The same way Americans are taught the value of Liberal Democracy in schools by default, in China, children are given Marxist literature and treat Socialism as an obvious moral good. America is a cynical country, and because of this, we view all other countries with the same cynicism. China is not a cynical country. Chinese people actually believe in their government, and in Socialism. And Communist Party officials are people; most are middle-class (much less oligarchic than the millionaire-stuffed American Congress) and believe generally in Socialist ideals. Just like how in America bureaucrats need to believe that they are “doing the right thing” for the preservation of Liberal Democracy, in China, Chinese bureaucrats believe they are building Socialism. Ultimately, this belief is the only important thing; as long as the Chinese people do not become cynical, the Socialism is real. What Westerners on the internet think of it does not matter a bit.

You only need to look at how China deals with the super-rich. Despite only having a couple hundred of them, China has executed dozens of billionaires; further dozens have been murdered, committed suicide, or jailed. I can only find data from 2011 (72 dead, no data for prisoners), but they haven’t stopped, and I would be willing to bet the number is well over 100 by today. If Billionaires were truly in charge in China, don’t you think they would object to the government executing and imprisoning them?

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Yeah, if I could start my own egalitarian nation, I would, bud. Until then (and even after), I and everyone else has the right to criticize anything we want.

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That is literally a quote I would attribute to Stalin.

And during his worst purges too.

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The CCP should do so first.

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ChatCCP

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How much should I charge for this item?

I am sorry but as a socialist AI language model…

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Chatgpt already identified a socialist.

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Will CCP also start following the core values of socialism now?

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Whataboutism

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That is a perception index and not a democracy index. It is purely based on what the surveyed people said about their government.

If you ask most in China anything about the government, they will only say good things and deny anything else, because doing otherwise could result in them getting ‘disappeared’.

As the survey report itself says:
“In authoritarian countries, positive perceptions might result from different conceptions of democracy, high levels of government satisfaction, or fear of speaking out against the government.” I am betting on the latter.

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Xi should be great at socialism, according to the paradise papers he’s one of the richest people on the planet.

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We’ll know we’ve achieved AGI when the robots start engaging in leftist infighting.

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Splitters!

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