Also comparing it to Rick and Morty which suggests they haven’t watched it

edit: If you don’t like the show that’s cool I just thought this was a weird pattern

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Ugly Americans was better.

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It hasn’t aged well, but bojack wont either.

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I just got tired of Bojack’s shit after season 2 and stopped watching

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Yeah how many times do we need to go through the cycle of the sad horse growing up and becoming mature and then collapsing back into drug addiction and reckless behavior? 3? 4?

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He never did grow up or become mature tho. Just some progress here and there, but there were still lingering issues that had to be resolved.

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Are you me?

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Sad horse show is way better than sad grandpa show and both are reflections of the social malaise we’ve fallen into

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but even that’s not a fair comparison, because sad grandpa is not self reflective. he’s just a fucking prick.

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I really hate american celebrity culture and i feel i could never connect to the characters. I also feel this show falls in line with a certain media obsession with mental illness going around. Particularly that discourse that paints mental illness as some sort of insurmountable block in the road that gives some people the right to act like jerks.

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Particularly that discourse that paints mental illness as some sort of insurmountable block in the road that gives some people the right to act like jerks.

That was a major theme that particularly in the last two seasons argued against.

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I couldn’t Stomach Bojack for more than the first season; To elaborate, for the few episodes i watched i think the episodic cartoon format of the show worked against it; Because it felt like the monster of the week exercise was more of a “Bojack’s little atrocity of the week;” And it wore me down before i could watch more. Maybe the show got better afterwards, but for what i saw the format got very stale.

I’m not even that type of person who’s expecting a moral or happy ending in a story, But for this particular character in a spiral of self destruction, i feel i’ve seen it portrayed better in other shows like say “fleabag” Where he overarching plot lets me see at least a semblance of progression and understand the quirks of the character. Maybe it’s just that I find American television too slow. “last two seasons” Makes me thing there is more than three?

Also people who watched Bojak; How do you feel the show’s Handling of mental illness holds up against critics of modern psychology like Ashley Frowley? A little example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oji8LCbCi4I&ab_channel=RoomforDiscussion

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Ugh. Then I understand why you might feel that way, there is a lot of progress in the show. First of all, they more or less drop the episodic format, after the first season the next seasons have much more of a linear progression. And yes, there is 6 seasons. They realised after the first season that some people were taking it as an excuse for Bojack being a jerk, and they incorporated that as a rather central theme. Especially in the later seasons. At some point one of the seasons (I don’t remember which one) is kind of like a deconstruction of previous seasons in a sense.

By the way, I didn’t like the first half of the first season and I stopped watching it until someone convinced me to start watching it again, and it just gets so much better.

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It was alright but I couldn’t stop thinking about all the animals and humans fucking

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