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It’s unusual for a manager not to have a style of play they’d try to implement wherever they manage. Most managers you know what type of football you’d be getting but Ten Hag just seems to be making it up as he goes along.

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That isn’t unusual at all lol. Every manager that doesn’t have a state supporting him does that. He explains why in the article. Pressing high and building up from the back requires a certain type of players and those are either out injured or don’t have the legs anymore to do that in the PL. You have to use players to their strenghts. If he would have played a high line/ high press system and Maguire and Evans would have been caught out everyone would have blamed him for not playing a low block.

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That isn’t unusual at all lol. Every manager that doesn’t have a state supporting him does that.

What a load of bollocks.

So Ten Hag supposedly has no style of play to bring to united because they aren’t funded by a state? What about all the work being done by the other managers in the league and around Europe? What about the fact that they carry on sounding hundreds of millions every summer predominantly on a mixture of overrated shite and over the hill sick notes?

The guy’s got so much at his disposal.

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Because he’s massively out of his depth in this league

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So out of his depth he massively improved them last season from their worst season in 30 years? Hilarious

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And he says it’s specifically cause of the players we have.

You can’t play Ajax football with Fernandes, Casemiro, Rashford, McTominay, Wan Bissaka, Maguire. Could go on. Cause we’ve Frankensteined a squad of mainly 2 different counter attacking managers, Mourinho and Ole.

What is causing the issue is that he’s brought in some ‘Ajax’ players to play alongside the others, so we’re playing some fucked up in-between which isn’t giving the best of either, and actually showing the worst in both.

He has to take blame, but the board above him do too, why is there nobody above him saying we now have a squad filled with players who want to be on the ball and also several players who treat the ball like a grenade?

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Having no identity to speak of as a club is a major issue- how does Manchester United want to play as a whole, and are the players and manager suitable for that?

We hang our hat on having young players come through and are immensely proud of it, but what kind of football are we teaching them, and is that uniform from youth level to the first team? The sooner United have an identity and plug in players who fit that the better; I’d sooner we know what we are and live or die by that than “Frankenstein” ourselves into being a team, which you’re absolutely spot on about.

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The Frankenstein squad took us to third last season though. This is so do with form and confidence.

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So? Every manager somewhat gets the old guard and has to manage around it. Think Ange or Emery got clean slate and players they wanted from day one?

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As much as I dislike Ten Hag, you’re right. Look at Arteta too, it took him years to get rid of the old guard and to turn things around. That included getting rid of Raul too behind the scenes

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This idea that every new manager has to buy deozens of new players to be successful is ridiculous and was created purely as an excuse for Chelsea and Man Utd

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Which why the calls for his firing are stupid. United needs to find a vision, how do they want to play? what is their philosophy? Find a fitting DoF, let him workout a strategy on recruitment and youth development and hire a coach that fits this philosophy. ManU has it backwards ever since Fergie left, they first hire the coach and then decide on the philosophy

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What is causing the issue is that he’s brought in some ‘Ajax’ players to play alongside the others, so we’re playing some fucked up in-between which isn’t giving the best of either, and actually showing the worst in both.

But looking at the United squad right now, who are actually players you’d expect to see at an Ajax side? Martinez and Eriksen. Not so much anyone else. Even Antony isn’t the kind of player to really set the playstyle at a club like Ajax, even if he did well there.

Ten Hag should be blamed for his mistakes, but I wouldn’t say this is a squad in between the old counter attacking style and the “Ajax” style. This is an unfinished squad, with simply a lot of poor players and unfit players. I would blame Ten Hag for having a front three of Rashford, Hojlund and Antony. Because it is a very expensive lineup, that doesn’t really make sense together and isn’t all that great individually either. But he’s also trying to make it work with what was already in the squad and a lot of the players just aren’t up for it.

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I would have said fair enough but watching what Ange has done at Spurs in 10 games when our team was built for counterattacking under Mourinho and Conteball. Sure we brought in a few players but he’s had a single window and we look much more coherent than what’s going on with y’all.

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You guys have some amazing players shackled by Conte and Mourinho. We’ve been let down by some of these players for several managers across multiple years, and some of them are still getting the chance.

We can get a lot better than we currently are. Struggle to get worse, especially given the injuries. Everyone seems low on confidence.

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He’s out of his depth and wasn’t ready for the PL in all honesty

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What does it have anything to do with the PL? He literally finished 3rd last season? It’s more just terrible job selection from him. Put De Zerbi or Emery or whatever flavour of the month manager in Ten Hag’s spot and they wouldn’t do much better

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Oh joy, we’ve reached the part of the cycle where the depressing quotes start, with the manager lowering already rock bottom expectations…

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Nothing depressing about this. All he’s saying is that Ajax have a particular brand of football and he adapted to it. United have never played that style and don’t have the players for it, so it doesn’t make sense to try to do the exact same thing he did before.

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Then why did he buy the Ajax players?

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He bought 2 Ajax players in total.

At Ajax he got the same amount of players from Benfica and from Sevilla, but they weren’t playing like them either.

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Wasn’t he brought in to implement that style? And wasn’t he given all that money to sign the players to implement that style? It’s kinda weird to say it can’t be done after 3 transfer periods.

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United’s 2 biggest and ‘best’ players in Rashford and Bruno simply cannot play possession-based football. That’s not their strength. Ten Hag’s issue is that he bought in some players precisely to play possession-based football (e.g. his new goalkeeper) but then also has players who can’t cope with it (e.g. Maguire and Evans right in front of the GK).

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United wanted Ole to create an attacking transition team, and from everything ETH has said this summer, he’s trying to create the same thing.

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He’s adapting to the United ‘shit’ brand of football. He’s a plonker for trying to play counter attacking football at a top side. Camping in all game at home against city is a disgrace

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Yeah, the problem is that is the job he was brought in to do and they are just now figuring that out. Now what? Let him go and hire a manager that plays United style? Who would that be?

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United downfall is changing philosophy

hire a manager who plays counter attack or 4-4-2 and you will instant progress

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Does the one who you have in your mind name rhyme with “ole”

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Please No

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Man I loved Ole, regardless of results.

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José “Ole” Mourinho 🤔

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Tbf he just says that hell never play Ajax football at United, because he has different players at United and United usually play another brand. Stating that he implements a style based on the players he has at his disposal, not the other way round

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But all the players he bought to implement that style tho …

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Not exactly lol

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Like half his team are ex Ajax, under him no less, and he’s had £400 million and counting to spend. At the very least they should be playing ETH era Ajax football.

Looks closer to Steijn era…

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Are the depressing quotes better or worse than the deluded quotes?

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/manchester-united-erik-ten-hag-b2438255.html

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Did you read the article? It’s far from a depressing quote, only if you just read the title.

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We just need a strengthening in ((insert position)), ((insert player name)) is just not cutting it.

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“the culture, is actually damn good” level of denial quotes.

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