This “You Should Know” post is top of ~June, for good reason. This post announced the kbin.social Federation/compatibility with Lemmy.

A huge amount of test-posts from a wide-variety of instances came in to test the new federation abilities (including from kbin.social, one of the biggest kbin communities).

I think this post shows the hope that over the long-term, we can get federation across the larger fediverse. I don’t know if Mastodon is in the works, but these kinds of posts give hope.

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I thought kbin was already federated and compatible with lemmy?

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It was, and then it wasn’t as the admin had to enable Cloudflare DDOS protection during the Reddit surge. This broke federation, but it’s back off now and Kbin’s back in the fold.

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This happened almost a week ago. So we have been federating for a bit now.

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I‘ve been commenting and upvoting stuff on lemmy all day long from kbin, no idea how that would be possible if they weren‘t federated.

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Federation was turned back on well before this was posted. Like probably a day or two or three ago.

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It was federating last week. So this post is just a few days late lol.

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Yep it federated before the influx, and cloudflare was only temporarily in place until early last week when federation kicked in again. So this would be news to people who joined like Monday and haven’t been here much.

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Hmm, good to know. I admit that I’m still relatively new to Lemmy and the Fediverse, so maybe I’m getting my facts wrong.

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Hello there to anybody on KBin reading this, feel free to throw memes at me

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Now that Sync for Reddit is being discontinued I’m dropping Reddit.

I saw a good write-up about kbin, so I signed up about a day ago and have been liking what I see - although it’s obviously still in its early stages.

I don’t know much about Lemmy and Federation, but is it a bit like the Newsgroups of old (Usenet), where you joined a Usenet service and any posts on any service propagated across all servers?

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I don’t know much about Lemmy and Federation, but is it a bit like the Newsgroups of old (Usenet), where you joined a Usenet service and any posts on any service propagated across all servers?

Yes and no.

Usenet’s communities / groups (alt.whatever) were unified. While communities on Fediverse are not. This means that !technology@beehaw.org is a different set of posts than !technology@lemmy.world.

Like Usenet, the federation model means that individual servers can accept, or reject, other server’s traffic. This means that posts aren’t guaranteed to be global. (https://Lemmy.world and https://Beehaw.org are having a defederation spat right now, at least while moderation tools are being developed to fix the problems). This should be familiar to any old USENET user, though the younger #RedditBlackout group is extremely confused about federation.

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Thanks for the clarification. I have another question I hope you can answer. Is it possible to be in an instance that have a federation with lemmy.world and beehaw.org? Even though they have been defederated with each other? I hope my question makes sense…

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Oddly, kbin can’t see all of lemmy.world. I made a kbin account to check it out and couldn’t find all the communities.

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Yeah, I’m seeing buggy behavior like that too on my end. Lemmy.world can’t see all of kbin.social. But I’m seeing “enough” that we can somewhat communicate with each other.

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Commenting from kbin; what makes it over to here seems pretty variable - sometimes I feel like the feed is all lemmy posts, other times lemmy might as well not exist.

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How do lemmings subscribe to https://kbin.social/magazines?

I tried searching for !science@kbin.social but no results.

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Try going to /c/science@kbin.social and clicking the subscribe button there.

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404: couldnt_find_community

Probably because I’m from a small instance and none of my fellow lemmings has discovered it yet. Though even for big instances, someone has to be the first. So how to discover magazines?

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I finally remember where I heard of this problem.

https://lemmy.world/c/newcommunities

A: At least one user in an instance needs to search for a community before it gets fetched. Searching for the community will bring it into the instance and it will fetch a few of the most recent posts without comments. If a user is subscribed to a community, then all of the future posts and interactions are now in-sync.

I did do a search over on your instance lemmy.click, but it didn’t work either. Very curious. I’m going to have to research how smaller communities import kbin.social magazines more reliably. Its probably less of an issue on Lemmy.world because we’re bigger and someone else did the right process already (whatever… that process was).

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They’re “magazines” at kbin. https://kbin.social/m/science@kbin.social

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They’re “magazines” at kbin, so:

https://kbin.social/m/RedditMigration

for example.

I don’t think there’s a “science” magazine at kbin, which is fine. Also of note, the magazine name is currently case sensitive, but I know it’s on the list of improvements to make that case insensitive.

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The UI I’ve found is still getting adjusted, but there’s a subscribe button on mobile that’s hidden behind the kbin logo and then the sidebar will open up and there’s a subscribe button in there.

I’m mostly just browsing /all for now but streamlining the UI/UX looks like it’s on the agenda to help new people find content

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The poster you’re talking to is from lemmy.click. The GUI looks completely from their point of view.

Here’s a full web-link to what @spzi@lemmy.click sees: https://lemmy.click/comment/145357

So life is a bit difficult since we’re all on different servers, and each server will have its own bugs with federation. But all in all, we’re able to communicate and try to work things out.

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This is the first time I’ve realized that comments are federated. I absolutely thought that the comments will not be shared across, and only the content would be. Woah.
Also that lemmy.click site has some nice UI

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Kbin doesn’t use the ‘!’

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