Two counterarguments:

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5 Star General, former President, Dwight D. Eisenhower had this to say about the Military Industrial complex. It rings true today as much as it did in 1961

SPEECH

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If we’re linking to the classics: Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler: War Is A Racket

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Eisenhower was the main force behind building the Military Industrial complex.

It’s kind of like a drunken, pantsless party guest saying that there’s a bunch of shit and vomit in the bathroom, and that it will certainly be a problem, but they’re going home now, so you should clean it up.

Only instead of shit and vomit, it’s a bunch of rich assholes making money by killing poor people.

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So is it somehow less true because he’s the one who shit and vomit everywhere?

https://www.theonion.com/man-always-gets-little-rush-out-of-telling-people-john-1819578998

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He was kind of saying “there’s this thing I built that could make all of you really rich, but it’s kind of horrible, you should totally dismantle it instead of using it to get rich”.

When Eisenhower gave that speech in 1961, there were already people screaming about how the military industrial complex was horrific, how it would lead to endless wars, and how it would cause global suffering.

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Is “American Security” going to pay off my student loan debts? How about my rent? How about for my medication this month?

No?

Then fuck off.

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More evidence to the contrary today: FBI says Hamas attack on Israel inspiring ‘new level’ of terror threat against US

The head of the FBI warned a congressional hearing on Tuesday that the Hamas attack on Israel has given terrorists inspiration “the likes of which we haven’t seen” since the rise of Isis a decade ago.

Christopher Wray told the US Senate committee on homeland security and governmental affairs that while the terrorism threat had been high throughout 2023, “the ongoing war in the Middle East has raised the threat of an attack against Americans in the United States to a whole other level”.

“We assess that the actions of Hamas and its allies will serve as an inspiration the likes of which we haven’t seen since Isis launched its so-called caliphate years ago,” Wray said.

Original link is paywalled: https://www.ft.com/content/e1758abc-df4c-49d4-ad4f-3f7b5f143305

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yes because bombing pali children will save us from a sovergen debt crisis and a bunch of other issues that resulted in the US dumping tens of billions in “foreign aid” while allowing the country to rot with a shitty 2 party system.

but the GDP went up!!!

when was the last time the GDP actually improved your life?

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He should name one security argument of supporting “Isreal”.

A political system where the president can say whatever without an opposition is useless…

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If only the opposition wasn’t batshit crazy…

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Tbf they’re mostly all crazy. Just some are better at hiding it than others.

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They’re not the same level of crazy.

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