Norway has succeeded in getting the European Data Protection Board (EDPB) to make permanent and extend across Europe its ban on Meta (Facebook’s parent company) harvesting user data for targeted ads on Facebook and Instagram.

158 points

Watch them cry foul, threaten to pull out, start a legal fight, then go nowhere like the abusive type they are.

permalink
report
reply
79 points
*

I wish they would pull out. It’s fucking ridiculous that so much of Europe is apparently just ok with using a Meta product for the defacto texting platform (WhatsApp).

permalink
report
parent
reply
46 points

Eh, it’s not like we started using it because it was Meta’s. They bought it when it was already popular, and switching everyone to something else is difficult.

permalink
report
parent
reply
10 points

Yeah, WhatsApp was ported to basically every single platform that was relevant in 2009-2010 when it launched: iOS, Android, Blackberry, Symbian, Series 40 and Windows Phone. Supporting Blackberry and Nokia mobile OS which were huge at the time as well as the new smartphone OS’s was genius.

permalink
report
parent
reply
7 points

Sure I understand the reasons why it’s this way, but it doesn’t make it a good idea.

permalink
report
parent
reply
12 points

Oh, it’s Messenger in Hungary. Not that it’s any better, just saying.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points
*

I mean that’s basically the same difference. It’s owned by the same company.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

Meta is the cancer of the internet. The sooner they leave the better.

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points
*

I hate that Meta bought it but I have to admit it is the best messaging app I have ever used for the last 10 years. I guess the enshitification will happen at some point.

permalink
report
parent
reply
-1 points
*

Better than the US, at least in Europe you are not forced to buy a specific device just to be able to communicate.

Who knows, if Facebook gets severely limited by these laws, maybe we’ll all switch to Signal or something.

permalink
report
parent
reply
6 points

I use Android and I exchange text messages with iPhone users all the time. They don’t use iMessage with me because my friends aren’t assholes.

permalink
report
parent
reply
0 points

You’re not forced to buy a specific device there. They all text each other fine. You just don’t get fancy iMessage features if you’re on Android.

permalink
report
parent
reply
3 points

Watch them cry foul, threaten to pull out

Ofc. But childish maneuvers are generally less effective in Europe where authorities are still authorities and not just the revenge actors with the bigger guns.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Yep - and they’re too big a market to abandon, meaning they’ll just roll over in the end.

permalink
report
parent
reply
104 points

Meta’s practices also collected protected data like race, religion, and sexual orientation. Meta disputed that it needed explicit consent, arguing that agreeing to terms of service was enough, but courts rejected this.

Oh please let this be the beginning of a global backlash against corporate EULA’s and the start of a path towards a few well understood EULA’s, similar to how we have a few well understood FOSS licenses.

permalink
report
reply
53 points

Cool

permalink
report
reply
4 points

Hwip

permalink
report
parent
reply
38 points

[chuckles evilly in Norwegian]

permalink
report
reply
33 points

Høh høh

permalink
report
parent
reply
2 points

Well yes. Unfortunately that just reminds me of Beavis and Butthead so it’s not really evil enough.

permalink
report
parent
reply
32 points

This is awesome but I don’t really understand.

The purported issue is that they don’t have explicit consent for some data points. They apparently responded by saying they were going to charge a subscription.

Why wouldn’t they just get consent? I’m sure most fb users will just agree to anything put in front of them.

permalink
report
reply
68 points

Facebook collects data from various sites and doesn’t care if you are a user or not.

How can you get a consent from someone who doesn’t even know facebook collects data from?

permalink
report
parent
reply
14 points

This is the funny thing. You don’t. It has to be informed consent. ヾ(⌐■_■)ノ♪

permalink
report
parent
reply
17 points

Which makes Meta’s entire business illegal in the EU, thus the lawsuits and bans

permalink
report
parent
reply
37 points

It’s about the part where they can’t hide the data collection in the terms and conditions of the site. You have to have a separate clear consent step for them to collect the data.

permalink
report
parent
reply
24 points

However, regulators have questioned whether the prices are too high to give users a real choice.

permalink
report
parent
reply
8 points

I bet there is something like what of they don’t consent? Then they have the choice to pay the subscription instead of being denied access to the site and therefore not make any money for Meta.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Why wouldn’t they just get consent?

That would mean to accept a possible ‘No’ as an answer. Something thoroughly new to them. They still prefer to continue without giving a damn.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Technology

!technology@lemmy.world

Create post

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


Community stats

  • 18K

    Monthly active users

  • 11K

    Posts

  • 517K

    Comments