In my opinion, Abby from TLOU 2. During the first part of the game, she is portrayed as the bad girl, but when she become the playable character, you understand that she isn’t:
-Her father and friends were unnecessarly killed.
-She became pariah from her clan when she saved a member of a rival clan.
-She have been harschly tortured.
-She spared Ellie despite having occasions to kill her for understandable reasons.
I don’t get why many players didn’t changed their minds at the second part of the game, it’s so obvious that the real bad people are Ellie and Joël. Theres no problem about having sympathy for bad guys, but you must keep your critical mind.
And what infuriates me is that people even harassed the voice actress because of what her character did. Come on, guys !
i’m only a couple of seasons in to breaking bad but i truly don’t understand why skylar is so hated. i think she’s reacting not only rationally but startlingly calmly considering the circumstances.
I feel like it’s because of really good writing. Walter is objectively a bad guy. He’s committing crimes, he’s making a dangerous and highly addictive drug, he’s killing people, just because he’s too proud to accept help from his former colleagues. But the writing is great, the acting is incredible, so we see Walter from his own perspective–as the hero of the story. Skylar’s not appreciating him as a hero, she’s upset with him for putting the family at risk. When Skylar reacts reasonably to Walt’s behavior, it makes us mad because it makes Walt mad.
At the core it really is sexism. A male character criticizing the main male character’s shitty behavior would not get nearly the rage that Skylar got.
Honestly it is a testament to the writing and the actress on making the character being reasonable so anger inducing.
the writing really is fantastic but i think i really lost all sympathy for walter when he tried to assault skylar. i’d also like to add that, while not an excuse, the whirlwind of hormones a pregnant woman would be experiencing makes it nothing short of a miracle skylar managed to keep a lid on everything
The show is about a guy going down the crime route, and Skylar is an obstacle to that. From the viewer perspective, Walter is fun to watch, he’s doing something cool. Cooking Meth is cool. But then comes that boring character that nags him about “morality”. Boooringgggg, who the hell does this chick thinks she is? I came to watch a show about a guy going in a downward spiral, why is she nagging?
Pardon my “monkey brain” thought process description lol. My point is that from what I’ve seen, people tend to dislike characters that stand in the way of the protagonist doing the main thing that he’s supposed to be doing.
For example, Chichi from Dragon Ball, Goku’s wife, tends to be disliked because she “nags” Goku. Her “nagging” tends to be basically reminding him that he’s a father and has responsibilities, like helping out at home and financially. It’s a shounen so it was always overlooked, but technically Chichi is the only one managing finances, and they’ve been living off only from her father’s wealth. Wealth that eventually starts to run out at the end of the Z series iirc. Goku, for all intents and purposes, is a terrible family man.
But, it’s a fighting show. It’s about Goku and his friends fighting bad guys. So people don’t like when characters detract from that objective, so they hate those characters, even if they are actually being the reasonable ones.
i get the point you’re trying to make but goku and walter white are quite fundamentally different characters lol
Oh yeah of course, didn’t mean to imply they are similar lol. The only connection I’m making is about the similarity of side characters of their stories being hated by the viewers
Walter supposed to cook meth > people hate Skylar for standing in the way
Goku supposed to fight > people hate Chichi for standing in the way
Same reason people rooted for Nancy in Weeds. Fictional works don’t have the same logic and morality of real life applied to them, since audiences wish for things that they wouldn’t wish to happen in real life. Like who says my current life is too boring and these people I like are redundant need to be written out, and there needs to be something tragic that happens because everything is too happy right now.
Jar Jar Binks was not a bad “person” in Star Wars but was a hated character. He was one of the nicest good guys.
The actor who played Jar Jar Binks, Ahmed Best, said that the widespread criticism of his character had led to him considering suicide.
I hate how the Star Wars fandom responded to Ep 1. Ahmed Best & Jake Lloyd deserved so much better. Lucas did nothing to protect them, either.
I hate how the Star Wars fans respond to PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING. I was the biggest Star Wars geek as a kid; it was THE thing I collected and played with extensively. As many characters as I could get, ships. Made my own stuff. Generally freaking appalled at everyone’s behavior since then.
Star Wars has the most toxic fan base, but that first place position is possibly shared with video game players.
I can understand that people doesn’t like the character (honestly, i think he is a bit irritating), the problem is that too many people are treating Star Wars as a religion, and a simply annoying character as a blasphemy.
The actor who played Jar Jar Binks, Ahmed Best, said that the widespread criticism of his character had led to him considering suicide.
While this is absolutely sad and I hope he’s healed past this, I feel like it’s also strange? No actor is ever going to play only beloved characters. Many are neutral side characters or even villains, meant to be hated. As long as the hate didn’t bleed through into real life, why internalize anger that’s really directed at the writers for creating such an annoyance of a character?
Well, I did say
As long as the hate didn’t bleed through into real life
I suppose the person I quoted misrepresented the reason the actor took it so personally. It’s not “people didn’t like my character,” it’s “a few people are assholes who can’t separate fiction from reality.”
Wesley Crusher.
Wesley Crusher isn’t that bad of a character, and while he is kind of obnoxious and insufferable early on, Wil Wheaton never should have been blamed for that. The problem is with Eugene Wesley Roddenberry shoehorning a highly idealized self-insert character into the show, overriding the writers every time they tried to prevent Wesley from being written as a messiah character, and using his executive power to rewrite scripts so the wonderful, smart, kind, brilliant, handsome, young Gene Wesley saves the day by being amazing. You can’t blame a character or an actor for bad writing and a weird old man’s desire to groom a protégé.
Any female character in literally anything
I think it’s died down some in recent years, but Tom Nook from animal crossing. They’ve done a lot to try and make him even more friendly in recent games, but even in the first he sees a guy who ended up in his town who didn’t have any plans, money, or even a place to stay. He decided to give that person a horse with a loan that had no interest and could be paid off at any time, and even gave him a few chores to pay him and help him meet the townspeople. Dude was super nice, but all everyone remembered was that you had to pay him money and so there’s this version of the character in people’s heads where he’s this super mean and greedy guy.
He decided to give that person a horse with a loan
I know it’s a typo but that sounds like an awesome start to a western video game, regardless of how it’s interpreted – either getting a horse and a loan for supplies, a horse that needs to be paid for later, or a horse that took out a loan by some kind of paperwork error and now has more money than you. I’d play any of those.
And also I’m with you, I think the funny jokes about Tom Nook took off into a smear campaign. Having no time limit, interest free, and also being in a world where money is everywhere and literally grows on trees makes it an amazing deal.