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That being said, I think the article conflates a bit “rationalists”, “effective altruists” and “longtermists”. I’m pretty sure the boundaries between the groups are very blurry, but I guess for reasons of fairness one should still make an attempt to distinguish them.

A rationalist, an effective altruist, and a longtermist walk into a bar. He says, “ouch.”

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One of the easiest ways to get downvoted on the orange site is to say anything even mildly critical of Scott Alexander Siskind. It’s really amusing how much respect there is for him there.

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More depressing than amusing

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While I love blaming slatescott for things, I do think there’s maybe a deeper story to the fascination with addies than slatescott blogging about it once.

A lot of millennials were prescribed stimulants as kids, enough that we have some level of folk knowledge about them. In Adderall Risks he more or less admits to handing them out like candy and he is far from the only (lol ex) psychiatrist to do so.

The article, while clearly endorsing stimulants as a safe nootrooic that everyone should take (and is good for the world now let me munch a few more pills 💊), is actually more of an apologia to convince people who are already using stimulants that no harm will come to them. Sure there’s the usual amount of discovering an apple pie from scratch new atheist libertarian bloviating that obscures it, but he does that about everything.*

One funny aspect of his ‘stimulants are required for modern work’ argument is that he’s basically endorsing the social model of disability, though more recently he has decided that expressing ableism to own the libs is more important than being correct.

*Except if he wants to sneak in an idea without you thinking about it. Those will usually be the hardcore nrx ones.

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more recently he has decided that expressing ableism to own the libs is more important than being correct.

I already know these people are eugenicists who would rather die than think about sociology for one minute, but still I feel the need to say: god what a cunt.

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Or rather die than come up with good metaphors to attack his shitty strawman. He knows his Everest metaphor is shit – some summiters are blind or double amputees, and the amount of equipment ableds need to climb everest is *evidence* of the social model – he backpedals halfway through, but he makes the metaphor anyway! NASA is literally trying to figure out how to design space travel for disabled astronauts, which he’d know if he’d typed two words into google.

He’s just… being a cunt.

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Also the distance between the social model of disability and transhumanism is measured in nanometers, and yet these assholes are so offended that disabled people might be using the enhancements of their eugenicist dystopias.

These motherfuckers.

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B-but submarines aren’t wheelchair accessible and I can’t imagine alternatives to wheelchairs or different submarines! And I like to think about how my grandmother would die if I stranded her on a desert island! So I must be right! P.S. cars are a natural occurrence!

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to be scrupulously fair there’s only a small subset in the threads doing that annoying passive-aggressive HN thing of “I don’t understand, please provide me with copious citations supporting your position”.

It’s very important for some HN to keep up the facade that Scott Siskind is just the author of the Neoreactionary FAQ and actually not a neoreactionary himself.

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The latter is quite the rationalization esp when he has prefaced the article with 'I no longer believe in parts of this article [which parts, I thought epistemic honesty was important etc etc]) and just left it at that.

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I’m reminded of a story I’ve heard told here in ZA (the details of which I’ve never seen confirmed anywhere, so treat it as apocryphal or folk retelling):

A leading cabinet member said in session “half of you lot are idiots”. When admonished about his remark and ordered to rescind it, he went with “half of you lot aren’t idiots”

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I’m glad you mention Zvi’s piece, it feels like the real insider take on SBF.

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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it’s amusing debate.

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