Recently I was browsing some communities I typically hang out in and I started noticing Hexbear accounts being… well their typical selves.

Which made me check which account I was on because I’ve got a few, and when I noticed I was on my Blahaj account I had to check and it looks like we’re federated again?

Why?

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Hey, sorry about the way this unfolded.

I removed hexbear from the blocklist, as they are defederated from us, and I was unaware that it would mean that hexbear users and blahaj users would be able to interact on 3rd party instances. I’ll add them back for now.

Ultimately, the reason I removed them from the list now is that once we have the ability to let users block instances on a per user level, I am open to the idea of refederating with hexbear, because I am aware that many of their trans and gender diverse users want the ability to connect with our trans communities, and trans solidarity is something that I hold to be very important. Enough that I am willing to give this all another go.

However, it was only meant to happen after blahaj users had the option to opt out of interacting with hexbear users, and after I had made an announcement letting people know it was coming. I apologise for the screw up leading to a mini refederation before I gave people a heads up and before the tools were in place to let people choose whether they engage with hexbear users.

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I will warn you right now: regardless of their claims to be LGBTQ+ inclusive, they mercilessly harass users and fracture communities. I have left a couple other instances over their federation with them because of the constant harassment for any kind of perceived slight (I was accosted because they thought I had implied something about autistic folks? When in fact I was trying to make myself understood as an autistic person!).

You are making a huge mistake with this decision. But, obviously, as a user, I can only wish you well if this is the direction you choose. You will be making so much more work for yourself by doing this and putting a lot of stress on users who did not sign up for what is to come.

Best of luck.

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I will warn you right now: regardless of their claims to be LGBTQ+ inclusive, they mercilessly harass users and fracture communities. I have left a couple other instances over their federation with them because of the constant harassment for any kind of perceived slight

I am not saying we will stay federated and that’s the end of it. What I’m saying is that with the goal of trans solidarity, and more refined blocking tools, I’m willing to give it another try.

If it ends up causing more harm than benefit, then we’ll shut the doors again.

I am very keen to try and make this work, but if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t work.

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I will also chime in and say that very few people want them back. Its the Intolerance Problem with them. They actively are intolerant toward everyone. We should never return.

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You’re a better person than I am. That’s one of the reasons I hang around here.

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constant harassment for any kind of perceived slight (I was accosted because they thought I had implied something about autistic folks?

I have very similar experiences. My impression is that the goal is stirring shit and making trouble and “owning libs”. They use traditional leftist topics to do it, but that’s the means, not the end.

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It should be noted that Lemmy’s blocking function is more for “things you don’t want to see” and is next to useless for users that are actually harmful because it does not restrict access to the person it is used on, it only hides their content from you (great for people who you “disagree with” but insufficient for legitimately/objectively harmful users).

Instances like Hexbear post large amounts of spam and spread objectively harmful ideology and misinformation. They aren’t merely “things you don’t want to see”. Their defederation should be done to maintain the health and safety of the instance due to the severity of some of their offenses.

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Jesus Christ. Fuck Tankies. Defedefate. We never wanted them back.

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I didn’t realize either until I wandered into one of their posts. I am newer to lemme and I thought the general vibe was “leftist=good, atrocities=bad” but these dudes were all about Russia being good dudes and Ukraine being bad. I asked what was up with that and everyone shit on me. I even got some NK style propaganda thrown at me. Apparently NK is a lovely place to live and they are just being sanctioned to death bc they resist American imperialism.

It really threw me for a loop. I spent some time trying to figure out wtf a hexbear is. The general consensus is that they’re tankies and that’s bad.

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They’re tankies. That is, they’re auth facists with a leftist mask slightly obscuring their face.

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I think the real problem is more simple, there is no trust in the media anymore, and for good reason, and as a result, peoples beliefs are guided less and less by facts and more by their own confirmation biases.

And this is a problem on both sides of every political issue these days, I don’t trust any sources anymore, I live in the US and the only way I know china and NK are evil is because they are authoritarian, so they are bad by default, the history of the US is so bad that I obviously can’t trust western media, some might not realize eastern media is just as bad after hearing european atrocities.

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We were defederated from them months ago but for some reason we appear to be federated with them again

There didn’t look to be any announcement or anything in this community here on Blahaj about it so that’s why I made the post

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Wouldn’t surprise me given the overlap in their… let’s call it thinking. Still, there’s nothing to suggest that e.g. Ernest from kbin is a tankie dipshit, so it’s still weird we also have to deal with it.

Instance blocking, in the absence of people doing their job, needs to arrive last month.

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No way lmao, how though?

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[I got a bot to automatically delete all my comments over 1 month old so you can’t see this comment anymore]

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You can block an entire domain, but the functionality is currently broken. It will hide entire comment sections from you if you do it.

However, based on recent posts at /m/kbinmeta it sounds like updates should start rolling out before too much longer, and I expect that will eventually be one of the the things that gets fixed.

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If I remember correctly, we didn’t defederate from them. They came, they threw shit around, and they defederated soon after for a bonus superiority boner. So hexbear is defederated from us, but we are not from them.

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No we did defed them

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After they left we made it mutual to prevent exactly this situation we’re in now.

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