I’m in the US.

I haven’t discerned a pattern, by the media, in the titling of the horror currently underway.

I’ve seen Al Jazeera use both phrasings. I haven’t determined that other media sites are hardlining their terminology either, but I notice the difference as I browse.

Maybe it doesn’t mean anything, but these days people seem extra sensitive about names.

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“Israel-Hamas War” vs “Israel-Gaza War”?

Both are pure propaganda - Israel, and the western countries that backs it, wants to pretend that this is some “new” conflict and not the very same one Israel has been waging non-stop against Palestinians since 1949.

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Seems to be like a more accurate description would be the Israeli perpetrated Gazan genocide. Calling it a war is like taking a flamethrower to your backyard because you stepped on a nettle and then calling it lawn care

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Hamas is elected via a minority of Gaza as a result Hamas doesn’t act with the will of the majority and calling this the Israeli-Gaza war is disingenuous to the people of Gaza.

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Isn’t Gaza losing more people to this so called war than either Hamas or Israel?

This feels like saying there was a fight between two people and not mentioning that the biggest fighter only seemed to really be attacking a third smaller, less-aged person for some odd reason.

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Hamas were elected in January 2006 and have refused new elections since.

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The average person in Gaza was somewhere between “way too young to vote” and “didn’t exist yet” the last time an election was held

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And as half the population of Gaza is under 18, they for sure didn’t vote for them.

On top of that, Nethanyahu has greatly supported Hamas and sabotaged moderate political alternatives

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“explain why I should be offended”… fixed the title for you.

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Gaza was given to Arabs for self rule and determination in 2005, all Jews left Gaza, even Jewish graveyards were dug up and moved, it was theirs to do with as they liked.

They’ve spent the last 18 years making into a terrorist Disneyland with a dozen Islamofascist terrorist organizations with the stated goal of killing Jews and destroying the state of Israel, they’ve fired hundreds of thousands of missiles into Israel indiscriminately targeting civilians, and launched countless cross borders attacks against Jewish civilians, including one that caused the largest loss of Jewish life in any single day, anywhere, since the Holocaust on October 7th.

They were given Gaza to live in freedom and self determination, they used it to kill Jews. They were warned. They chose to ignore the warnings.

These acts of terrorism were perpetrated by the entire Gazan community, they voted for Hamas, and allowed Hamas to rule their government for the last 17 years, Hamas and all the other Islamic terrorists in Gaza are not outsiders, they were born in Gaza of Gazans, they were raised in Gaza, they were educated in Gaza, they married and had children of their own in Gaza, their Parents, teachers, mosques, hospitals, are all in Gaza, from which they use to hid and store weapons to attack Jews, Hamas, PIJ and all the other Islamic terrorist in Gaza ARE Gaza, there has been no uprising in Gaza, there have only been attacks on Israel. This is what Gazans have supported and sacrificed for in every way they possibly could.

And now it’s here. I do hope they enjoy what they’ve worked generationaly to achieve.

There will be no ceasefire this time.

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Who is they? Hamas didn’t win a majority in the 2006 election. Then they fought a civil war and took autocratic control in 2007. So what are you talking about when you say they? It certainly isn’t all Gazans or Palestinians.

You’re championing genocide and the wholesale slaughter of civilians. Do you honestly believe that a terrorist attack allows the unrestrained murder of civilians?

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Going by your interpretation of „genocide“ the holocaust wouldn’t have been one either. Jewish population is much bigger today than before. What a relief!

https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-of-the-world

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What does religion have to do with this? Israel is a fascist state illegally colonizing Palestine in search for more lebensraum, while detaining random Palestinians for sometimes years without a trial in prisons where torture is fully accepted in what only can be described as concentration camps. All the while bombing civilians, including lots of children, and now effectively creating an open air prison without food, water and electricity where they indiscriminately bomb whoever they can as result of a nationwide hate against a specific ethic group.

Yet some people claim they are the good guys.

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that word doesn’t mean what you think it means

actually, i think it’s you that doesn’t understand what the word means so here’s the definition:

Genocide is the intentional destruction of a people in whole or in part. In 1948, the United Nations Genocide Convention defined genocide as any of five “acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group”. These five acts were: killing members of the group, causing them serious bodily or mental harm, imposing living conditions intended to destroy the group, preventing births, and forcibly transferring children out of the group. Victims are targeted because of their real or perceived membership of a group, not randomly.

partial targeting is still genocide

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