I really like gnome and how it looks. However every time I try it I find myself in need of more functionality and so I install a bunch of extensions. For example I can’t live without a dock and some sort of system tray that shows which apps are running in background.

Sometimes the extensions have small UI inconsistencies or use more memory than usual. That’s why I totally ditched gnome and switch to KDE.

Also I tend to think it’s been designed for people who are more comfortable using a keyboard. I’m mostly a mouse person.

Do any of you run pure gnome with no extensions? How do you cope with the lack of a dock and system tray?

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You’re trying to use Gnome the way you’re used to using a desktop.

If you try and learn the Gnome way, you’ll have a better time.

To be honest I had the same problem when I first went from Windows to OSX, I was struggling, trying to make OSX familiar, but when I decided to learn the Apple way, everything became easier.

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Well said, although I do think Gnome is for everyone, they’re just being stubborn 😜

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Herbstluftwm fans disagree

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My problem is that I feel gnome is geared toward a certain group of people users who use a limited set of apps and want to focus on development work.

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Well I think that’s the issue here. It’s not geared towards a group of people, but towards an ideal workflow which is the Gnome Way.

If you’re someone that likes to have masses of applications or windows open you can certainly use Gnome, but the Gnome is more focused on one or two windows per desktop/workspace and I encourage you to embrace that way of working too

Again, it’s not about people, but the intended user experience.

I remember when Windows first introduced My Documents folder and subfolders for images, music, video. To begin with I rejected this folder because I wanted my folders in the root C: as I had always done. Eventually I decided to use these folders and I learned to appreciate the convenience of this, including all the additional thumbnails and meta data that the OS provided automatically for those folders.

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I don’t use a dock at all. My workflow is super+app-name and alt+tab.

But this is the same for me on Plasma or any other DE. I just don’t need or use a dock.

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What I’m saying is that my Plasma also doesn’t have a dock at all.

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Have you considered Pop OS from System76? Pop OS has a GNOME-like DE where the dock is fully displayed. It’s very much like the macOS DE. The current stable release uses a GNOME-like DE, and the developers at System76 are working to make it into their own DE called Cosmic.

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Thanks, yeah I’ve heard good things about Cosmic. I’ll give it a try when it’s available on Fedora.

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I have extensions that do small QOL things. I can still use GNOME just fine without a single one of them enabled.

How do you cope with the lack of a dock and system tray?

I don’t cope with that. I don’t really see a huge benefit to having a system tray. Before GNOME 44 added the background apps view to the quick settings menu I just put anything that was ‘background’ into a workspace. Even after 44 I still have this habit and rarely actually need the background view.

As for the dock argument I’m not sure what an always visible dock would provide that the current dash does not. I think I might even prefer the current dash over an always visible dock. Whenever I want to switch windows I just go to the overview and pick out whatever window I want. It’s a lot easier to hit a huge window than to have to target a small icon at the bottom of the display.

I understand that some people might disagree but I actually love what GNOME does (most of the time).

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How do you tell when you’ve got mail, or someone messaged you?

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Notifications?

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And if I wasn’t there for the notification?

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The thought of not being able to tell how many apps are running at a glance is unsettling for me.

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I use it with a system tray but no dock. The overview when you press meta is enough for me.

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