See the link for details. What story are these people talking about?

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Giving more publicity to these people and their ideas is sometimes what pushes people to do things like this in the first place, so cutting down on the spread of that sort of information could help minimize future occurrences. That being said, I doubt Reddit is being so benevolent as for that to be their reason, they probably just don’t want the possibility of bad press.

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This one.

Note that the shooter may be named Aiden, not Audrey - I have yet to find a news source explicitly stating which is their legal name as opposed to the other. This can make it frustrating to find articles about the shooting, so I recommend just using “Hale”.

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Non-Google AMP link: https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/audrey-hale-manifesto/

If you see “amp” in the link, delete it.

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You can get browser add-ons which will automatically remove the amp. I use “redirect amp to html” in firefox but I’m sure there are others to choose from.

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On that link they sign their name as Aiden so presumably that’s what they used.

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The evidence seems pretty damning from what I’ve read. Confirmed authentic by Nashville police, too. Big tech and the media seem to be scrambling to cover up and censor the manifesto story as quickly as possible. Make of that what you will… but if this were a right wing terrorist, it’d be news the world over, and nobody would have had an issue with it. The writings shown in the leaks make it very clear that the shootings were racially-motivated - and had been planned for months.

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Do you have a link to the manifesto? I can’t seem to find it anywhere. It’s strange how little information is easily available on it; every article I see in search results is informationless fluff, with various attempts to spin something, but they’re all so unclear on what the thing they’re spinning is in the first place it comes across very strange.

To be honest I’ve always kinda thought how much things get censored is overblown, but damn, someone just killed half a dozen people (half of them children), injured hundreds more, and released a manifesto as to why they did it - yet somehow it gets buried. Instead there’s an endless stream of speculation, blame, and talk about everything else. I don’t think there could be anything in the writing that would concern me more than the degree to which it seems to be deliberately ignored.

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For the record, I think the guy is a massive fucking dickhead, but he originally broke the story, and imo, did the right thing here. His Twitter is a good place to start: https://nitter.net/scrowder

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Damning in what way? It’s already certain that they were guilty. The rantings and ravings from 3 select pages of a journal don’t really do any credit to anything.

A court has ordered that it not be published, pending litigation. The places that have published it have done so on very dubious legal grounds.

Free speech has limits - you can’t shout “fire” in a crowded theatre - and free press has similar limits. The public interest should be first and foremost, not ratings or clicks.

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You cannot tell me with a straight face that if the suspect’s political ideology were far right, that the media and large tech platforms would be employing the exact same response. This isn’t a matter of legal proceedings, it’s glaringly-obvious demonstration of what mainstream media and their counterparts will do in order to silence any story that may damage the credibility of their beliefs. This was an anti-white hate crime. It is being suppressed. If this were an anti-black hate crime, it would be covered worldwide, court orders be damned - and you know it.

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I’m telling you with a straight face that it doesn’t matter whether they were left or right, they’re still full of shit.

Maybe, in an academic setting, it might have value to analyse their writings. So we can study how they devolved into madness. Such a study will come much later - but reactionary bullshit like this really isn’t beneficial.

I mean, the whole story when it broke was massively over-exaggerated. “A trans person went on a school shooting, OMG TRANS PEOPLE ARE EVIL!” was the narrative. That’s not rational, that’s just sensationalism. This leak isn’t about serving the public good, it’s about stoking more of the same sensationalism.

Gun crime in all forms is bad. Focus on the gun crime, don’t idolise the villains.


In any case, by the law, it was not supposed to be released yet. People sued to have it released, it shouldn’t be released until after those lawsuits are resolved. Furthermore, the reason it was ordered not to be released was for the benefit of the families of children who went to the school.

Also, calling it a “manifesto” is such bullshit. It’s 3 select pages of a journal full of mind vomit rants. That’s not a manifesto, which is something far more coherent and fully fleshed out.

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Here’s a fun country music fact: the son of Waylon Jennings is a NASHVILLE singer/songwriter named “SHOOTER Jennings”.

Nashville shooting?

Edit: yep.

For whoever sees this, the story is about the Nashville shooter’s manifesto being released. That info should get you to the story.

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A brief dig leads me to believe that they are banning posts of the Nashville shooter manifesto.

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