i don’t want to offend anyone, but some open source/privacy enthusiasts dislike google, but why?? google has made chromium, android, etc and most of the things they do are open source, and not only that, they also support creative commons media or public domain. i know the privacy concernes they may have, but they would never do anything bad to you. i love google personally because of their commitment to open source software.

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i know the privacy concernes they may have, but they would never do anything bad to you.

Seriously?

So;

Google would never….

And that’s just the stuff I know about and could find quickly,

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Their search used to be amazing, now it’s shit.

If you disagree, I’m sorry you can’t remember when there was a time that it was infinitely better. It was so good, in fact, that their name actually became a verb. Crazy, right?

They’re slowly killing Waze by removing features. Believe it or not, that app used to be even cooler too.

That. That’s why.

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Their search used to be amazing, now it’s shit.

Yeah, have to agree on that. Especially if I’m looking for something niche. It used to be the opposite, you went to google if you were looking for something hard to find.

Bing seems to be a lot better for my search needs right now. Duckduckgo is just… a mess if you ask me. No relevance to results whatsoever, I usually find what I was looking for in the 10th link or so… or not at all. After 10, 15 results, duckduckgo just returns irrelevant results.

The image search in Google has gotten better though, so I still use that.

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Google buying then killing services, probably their strongest skill. >>> https://killedbygoogle.com/

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Chromium is open-source. Chrome is not and also happens to constitute a majority of the browser market, and Google has tried multiple times to cash in on this market share to benefit their primary business of advertising to the detriment of users (FLoC, Manifest v3, Web Environment Integrity).

Likewise, AOSP is open-source, but Google has been progressively dismantling it and making various components closed-source (most recently the dialer app).

All this to say, Google is absolutely not friendly to FOSS. As a corporation, they’re beholden to their shareholders above all else and they should be treated as an amoral entity, the same as every other publicly-traded company.

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Chrome itself isn’t the real problem, how they managed to get Chromium everywhere is. You have one real alternative and that’s Firefox (and derivatives) and it’s barely surviving, which sucks.

Sure, they might not get as much money directly from non-Chrome browsers, but they get to push standards through Chromium.

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google isn’t amoral , i’m sorry but, what about the google employees who use debian?? or who use krita?? those people are changing the environment!! and the only case in which they can be seen as amoral, is when they are asked for data to the government.

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Public companies are by definition amoral. They’re beholden to their shareholders and virtually every decision they make is informed by this obligation. Morality generally only factors into their decision-making insofar as it affects PR and thus the bottom line.

I don’t mean to say that Google or any other company is immoral. I use amoral to simply mean that they operate independent of morality. No public company, no matter how much you may like them, is your friend at the end of the day.

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I’m sure they have some Firefox users too. It’s going to take a lot more than a few employees using Linux to convince me they wouldn’t steal both of my kidneys and leave me in an icy hotel bathtub.

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I mean, Microsoft peeps are trying to be buddy buddy with Linux now.

Doesn’t mean they are not an awful company

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Bathtub? Google would just pop you afterwards, there’s more organs in there.

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“but they would never do anything bad to you”

Oof, can I get this in writing? I, a massive company beholden to no one, promise to never evar backstab my loyal customers, pinky swear.

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But… their motto is “don’t be evil”! Surely, you can trust that!

/vomit,

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Well, they’re at least honest - they quietly changed their motto few years ago, now they can be evil.

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I can imagine some exec being like “oof, finally I can be evil, after all these years!”

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they will give incredibly private information to the highest bidder

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That would be bad for business. Why sell data to the highest bidder once when you can insert yourself in their value chain and seek rent forever?

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i’m really sorry but that’s not true!!

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Why bother asking if you’re not going to look it up and just say it’s not true?

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I looked it up on Google and it said google is one of the good guys!

/sarcasm (circular reasoning)

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well, with all blog articles, not everything has to be taken literally, maybe sometimes it’s just criticism or a misunderstanding. for example breaching user security, yes they did it, but for the safety of other people, so i’m sorry.

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I’m really sorry, but that IS true, check it out

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They sell ad spots based on their data about you - IMHO that’s very different from outright selling your data.

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lawsuit claims

It’s right in the title. So you claim it is true. I can also claim that you sell my personal data. Doesn’t make it true.

Let that lawsuit play out, and wait for the verdict.

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