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Of course it won’t be available for us here in the US.

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Unfortunately we need to force companies to do the right thing. And we should.

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That’s going to rely on the US people. If they make a big enough fuss, Apple will have to bring it to NA. But in all likelihood it will be gated by your regional payment provider.

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And we all know how much our people here care about stuff like this. lol

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My guess is Apple has already bought out most states if it gets to that. So you’ll get a few that will squabble and just get nothing done.

Hope I’m wrong.

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If it’s not in the US, I fear developers won’t take it seriously and we probably won’t get many good sideloadable apps anyway

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I just want to sideload YouTube revanced and a couple of other apps. This is the only reason why I have an android.

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To be fair you can already do it for YouTube with uYou and AltStore, it won’t be as seamless as on Android but it’s possible :)

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Ignited (or Delta) too

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And worse, development for other sideloading apps may slow down.

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I’m getting tired of all of Google’s BS, so I’ve been looking into an iPhone.

But not being able to sideload apps is a big deterrent. Not having real Firefox is another one.

If Apple could open up iOS to be more flexible and user-configurable, they could probably draw a lot of Android users like myself that appreciate the great hardware and are tired of Google’s business decisions.

But iOS is still dumbed down and locked down so badly.

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Apple being Apple, will charge some absurd fee to “sign” images to sideload on your iPhone. I wouldn’t hold my breath. Get GrapheneOS on a Pixel in the meantime.

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You can already do that with zero fees. The only issue is you have to redeploy the app after a week. That’s how AltStore works.

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You can already side load 3 apps for free on the iPhone but they need to be re-signed every 7 days. There are apps like SideStore that manage re-signing apps for you at the cost of one app slot.

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@dingleberry so, your solution is to buy a Pixel, acknowledge that Google has no clue how to make a secure device, unlock your bootloader (unless you take the OTA) and proceed to cripple it even further by removing all of the proprietary features that make the pixel, a pixel. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤣

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I use a pixel as is. But given folks on Lemmy like to install random system images from Megafile in the name of privacy, I thought OP wouldn’t mind.

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I second that suggestion, just install GrapheneOS. I switched from my iPhone to GOS over 6 months ago and haven’t looked back. It syncs with nextcloud for everything and it’s seamless!

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I’m about to receive my first iPhone, since the 4, on Monday, because of all the same reasons. I used to love Android platforms, because they allowed me to do whatever the fuck I wanted. Now I can’t even unlock my bootloader, at all. Even if I could, each of the vendors came up with a solution to permanently softbrick your phone in some way.

The only custom app I really want at the moment is modded Youtube, and having Altserver running isn’t really an issue. That said, if I didn’t need to do that at all, that would be fantastic

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You can try Yattee for YouTube. It’s in the AppStore, you just need to give it an invidious or piped instance to connect to.

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What has Google done that Apple hasn’t?

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I recently switched to iPhone from pixel and am very happy. However, I understand the need to sideload apps, haven’t watched YouTube at all on the iPhone because of the annoying ads.

I’m hoping that iOS allows installing apps from other sources soon, would also love to use the real FF.

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I mean, I’ve been using uYou on iOS since I got the iPhone two years ago. It’s a bit of a pain to set up initially, but assuming you have a PC or laptop that is switched on often enough and on the same WiFi network, running iTunes and AltStore, it will auto refresh in the background.

It has sponsorblock and all that good stuff too. Normal YouTube is literally unwatchable.

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Sweet lord my mouth is watering.

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Imagine iOS with the same liberties as macOS 🥲

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That’s the fascinating part to me. Installing thirdparty apps on iOS? Criminal, security circumventing, stability affecting. Installing thirdparty apps on macOS? Click the confirm button if you’re confident, I guess

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I’d prefer not to lump the stupid with the smart. If people are stupid enough to install willy nilly that’s on them.

I’d prefer the choice.

Also, smh for thinking every app out there is some nefarious bit of code.

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Hello from Poland! Just waiting here to finally have opportunity to install emulators without Alt Store 7 day refresh and limit of 3 apps only! Very sad, if you, guys from USA, will not be allowed to use this feature.

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I can‘t wait for Delta Emulator. I had to deinstall it because of the three app limit and before Reddit made those stupid API changes I had uYouPlus and Delta. Now I have uYouPlus and Apollo.

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You can sideload Apollo? :o

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Yes, there is a modded version which works with your own API key. https://balackburn.github.io/Apollo/

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Well, they make it much harder for right to repair, Just following from what Louis Rossmann points out.

Might as well hand out some crumbs here and there…

A small win is a small win, even if forced by EU. Similar to the USB-C port change.

At the same time, Apple will also appeal to the European Union about including the App Store in the Digital Markets Act, which is no surprise. Apple will likely try everything to preserve the iOS App Store. But ultimately, iOS 17 will be ready for sideloading.

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