I wonder when we see how many of the 1200 were shot from helicopters?
It’s the only actual “example” the NYT gave in this article for why we should be doubting “Hamas-controlled health ministry” numbers:
Some uncertainty has been sowed by the varying figures that Gazan health officials initially gave to reporters for the number of people killed in the Oct. 17 explosion at Al-Ahli Arab Hospital in Gaza, which ranged from 500 to 833 before they announced a final count of 471.
There are still no videos of that rave next to the military base that is right next to the concentration camp. Hamas people had their own GoPros and Israel has lots of cameras everywhere. My guess is they aren’t releasing anything because Israel killed the vast majority of the civilians there. But Israel’s strategy works, each new lie (like 40 beheaded babies, we didn’t bomb that hospital that one time etc.) spreads through the Western political system and the media, is used to justify war crimes and then gets quietly retracted weeks later.
There were a couple videos early on from that trance festival. I never saved any and haven’t looked hard enough to find them again - I suspect most are still on telegram. The one that was longest and stood out to me was security or IOF in black uniforms surrounded by dozens of festival goers laying on the ground, all using scrub brush bushes to hide, there is no gunfire, then the 2-3 black clad security or IOF guys get up and start shooting handguns in one direction. So they’re drawing fire from guys with rifles while surrounded by unarmed hidden festival goers, with no actual cover just concealment.
And at least half were soldiers
And a good chunk were IDF Apache gunships strafing with 30mm autocannon fire crowded highways filled with civilian vehicles. Blows my mind that the Israeli military did a reenactment of the iconic WikiLeaks “collateral murder” Apache gunship flight recorder video on their own citizens multiple times in one day. Hamas launches an attack and Israeli helicopter gunship crews just lose their shit on a scale i can’t recall having happened anywhere else at any other time. Professional military my ass, bunch of bottom of the barrel idiots armed with hundreds of billions of dollars in top of the line US military hardware.
beheaded babies count: 0 (-40 since last update)
So that’s (1,200 / 1,400) * 15 9/11s, which comes out to 12.8571428571 9/11s.
