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I wholeheartedly reject the Maine mass shooting is a product of gun manufacturers. Maine literally already has yellow flag laws where this guy should have been separated from his firearms when he was admitted to the psych hospital. The Maine mass shooting was a failure of the state and people do not want to accept that. The Sheriff that should have stepped in did not do so and THAT is unacceptable. I’m so over people using tragedies to prove their unrelated points. If gun manufacturers were really the problem we’d see millions of domestic murders based on the fact that there’s like 100 million more guns in circulation than there are citizens of the US.

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red flag laws cut suicides and murders. I feel like I read 10% reduction once. That’s… not a lot. Also, Maine’s yellow flag law is weak

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At this point I’ll take 10% reduction over 0%. And I think I highlighted the weak point of Maine’s yellow flag law. There was literally a person who could have created distance between the person and his guns, and they didn’t. What would you like to have happen?

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Arms manufacturers pushed more than 24 million assault weapons onto the American streets, one for every 10 adults, each designed with a single purpose — to kill lots of people as fast as possible

And there’s the very first problem, right there. The point of all arms is efficiency. Stone spear points were developed because they were more effective than flame-hardened wood. Atlatls were invented to throw spears farther than an arm. Swords were more effective than clubs. The first guns were more effective than bows. From the first matchlock rifles, we get wheel locks, then flint locks, and then percussion caps. By the time of the US Civil War, cartridges were being developed, and you had revolvers so that you could shoot more people without reloading. Winchester Repeating Arms Co. made the lever action rifle wildly popular because you could ‘load it in the morning and shoot all day’, and they were widely used by cavalry. When The Great War rolled around, we wanted even more effective arms, and switched to bolt action rifles with five and ten round magazines loaded far more powerful bullets than existed in the era of black-powder lever action rifles. When WWII rolled around, we started using autoloading rifles with stripper clips–the venerable M1 Garand–because bolt actions were just too slow to load and fire. By Vietnam, we’d switched to the detachable box magazine fed M14, only to discover that a full-power battle rifle cartridge in a wooden-stocked machine gun in the jungle was not a winning combination, and adopted a military version of the AR-15 with it’s plastic stock and lightweight 5.56mm cartridge. Since the 1960s, the AR-15 has changed very, very little; the rifle of the 60’s is still nearly identical 80 years later.

All weapons in human history have been designed to kill as many things as quickly as possible. All tools are refined to get better at their job over time. The car that I drive now is far, far more efficient than straw sandals, a horse, or even the first cars. It is less efficient than the mass transit systems that are used in many large cities.

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With all the guns around in US I am genuenly surprised that most of these shooters just go on random killing sprees instead of political assasinations. In japan a DYI gun was enough to kill former prime minister Shinzo Abe so would think country so divided as United states would have far more of these cases.

Guess the people on top truly are untouchable at least for most of the time.

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Most people like their politician. When they are polled about Congress and rate it unsatisfactory, it’s because they want all of Congress to be like their rep (or exactly their rep’s opposite, if they’re a minority voter in the area).

It’s a lot easier to assassinate your local rep than it is to shoot a senator from West Virginia or whatever, so the impulse to kill them is lower. Add in their significantly greater security and you can see how this lessons the odds of attempted assassinations.

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They may like their politician but that still leaves out a lot of the congress who they may dislike and target with their radicalized outrage.
But yeah the fact that these people are protected by greater (armed) security the chance for failure is far greater.

But still quite surprised how little actions or lack of have backfired on people in power.
Guess things will need to get way worse for more shit to start piling on their backyards.

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I don’t disagree, I was just offering my best explanation. With the way rhetoric is accelerating, I wouldn’t be surprised to see more political violence as 2024 approaches.

Also likely that it just comes in waves - bigger cycles will mean a higher chance at crazy.

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American politicians tend to be heavily guarded.

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Yea, it’s probably mainly cowardice. Foolishness too, as they probably don’t even realize who’s to blame for their ailments

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I’d like 100 on “Shit Takes”

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Yall seem to have forgot that the right to bear arms as originally written, was also the responsibility to bear arms. They didn’t have cops. The real root of all these mass shootings is nobody shoots back, all you fuckers are supposed to be armed.

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I seem to recall a whole bunch of armed people at Uvalde and it didn’t do much good.

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Let’s play a game of guess the active shooter and their accomplices in a crowd of armed citizens.

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In that game, there is no active shooter - and if there was, they would be dead instantly.

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Okay, you are on the street when you hear a gun shot and see a man go down. You draw your gun and look for the shooter. You see a crowd of people who have also drawn their guns. Which one do you shoot?

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Please do

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