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10 points

pretty rough episode imo. season 1 was all over the place but felt fairly consistent. this was some real highs (all the cleonic content) and some real deep lows (everything else)

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Agreed, my philosophy for the first season was that they deserved a lot of runway for this kind of story.

They’ve still got some, and I can see what they could be setting up this episode (and Lee was so much fun, watching him break from the cold Empire of s1 was great), but they really have to clean it up early this season.

Synnax is literally the least interesting planet in the Galaxy, wasting time here seems so silly.

The thing with Demerzel is also really damn weird, dying to see how this whole nightmare turns out.

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5 points

The Empire storyline is the most interesting part of this show.

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4 points

i don’t disagree, it could probably just be its own show

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7 points

So, Salvor thought turning a key and pulling a lever would be too complicated for Gaal, so she absolutely had to dive down and do it herself, risking both their lives… Top notch writing /s

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Also, it was a strange I-guess-I’ll-just-die-now of drowning.

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I still can’t get over how both Salvor and Gaal are “the chosen ones” in a setting where the whole premise is that there are no chosen ones and/or special individuals, aside from The Mule, but that’s the whole point of that arc.

The Cleon/Empire thing, tho, that’s great.

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Just watched ep 1. Think I’ll continue in the same way I watched season 1: admiring how good it looks, but finding it frustrating.

As an example: as welcome as a naked Lee Pace fight scene is, it didn’t really establish how many assassins there were / what they were doing at any given moment.

Was good to see Holt McCallney (from Mindhunter), show up though.

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Just finished the episode. As usual the Empire stuff is the most exciting. Naked Cleon fighting those assassins was pretty good stuff. The whole first season and still during this episode it has felt like there has been 2 entirely separate shows. I hope we see these two story lines cross again soon.

The stuff with Seldon having to be reminded about 3D objects having 2D shadows seems quite silly. I get that thinking in 4 dimensions is pretty high level thought, but after reading things like the Three Body Problem trilogy with how descriptive it is with the 4D weirdness and beyond it feels quite mundane. I suppose I should be mindful of the stories origins and the time period in which it was written. Assuming such aspects have anything to do with the source material. I’m not very far in the book so I can’t say for sure.

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