Ultra-white ceramic cools buildings with record-high 99.6% reflectivity::undefined

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You know what also cools houses down super efficiently?

Trees

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Excellent - how many trees can I grow on my roof? Can they be retrofitted?

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I can guarantee that a Rooftop Terrace garden cuts down almost 40% to 60% heat ever reaching the ceiling. If you have enough cover with smaller plants under larger bushes/shrubs/small trees then there will be a cool breeze around the terrace, provide nesting places for small birds and animals, a pocket of nature in an otherwise concrete heat jungle.

The problem is who can afford to maintain the Terrace garden is the bigger challenge. Constantly checking soil, composting, watering, maintenance and just time+expense is usually beyond a lot of folks.

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Trees? Not many. Grasses, herbs, wildflowers, and shrubs? Tons of them. And you can pretty easily retrofit over an existing sloped roof. And the weight is no more than a tiled roof.

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Wetness could pose a problem to the structure

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Kind of

There are eco apartments (planning idk about practice); grass on the roof and trees growing up the side

Lakehead University Orillia was going to do this for a new building but I don’t know what happened

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You know what cools roofs and generates electricity? Magic!

Another trick: bifacial panels oriented to pick up the reflected light from highly reflective roofs

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What about Ultra white ceramic trees?

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True though this is still practical for folks who live in deserts and other treeless places

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They also dampen noise

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but trees look gross

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NightAHawkinLight on youtube has been working on something similar. same kind of snow-like nanostructure to reflect light away, but with the added benefit of a paint that emits light in a wavelength that travels through the atmosphere without interacting with any of it.

so if you point a painted tile at the sky it will actually cool below ambient temperature, it’s pretty wild https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3bJnKmeNJY

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Tech Ingredients did a video about it as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNs_kNilSjk

The biggest problem with making stuff white and using fancy materials is the amount of crap they get exposed to.

Moisture is one issue, both in the form of water vapor / condensation as well as rain. But there’s also smallish animals, like birds and cats that crawl around on roofs. Not to mention all the insects. Then there is the normal sand and dust in the air, plus all the pollution. Depending on where you live, white stuff gets really dirty within weeks or months.

I work in a white office building and they have it cleaned with pressure washers twice a year, it takes a whole climbing team a good two weeks to clean the whole thing and it looks dirty again after a few months. And that’s just a white form of plastic (HPL) you can blast away on, without causing damage. With these fancy meta materials often they are really fragile and any damage undoes the special properties.

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Here is an alternative Piped link(s):

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Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

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They could just put a layer of something like Teflon over it. That’s why crosswalk stripes feel so slick.

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If you put something over it, it loses it’s reflective properties. Something is only as reflective as it’s upper most layer. Unless you use something transparent, but even things we would commonly think of as transparent usually are only transparent at specific wavelength. And even then it’s probably not really transparent, more like translucent. Not to mention things like internal reflections and wavelength lengthening.

This is a super complex subject with many people all over the world working on it and lots of money being put into it. It likely everything people can think of has been thought of and we need some real effort to get to a workable solution. Since no commercial application has been found, it’s not certain this is a fixable problem.

Too often we see innovative ideas and they are marketed as this is just the first version. We can work out the kinks, extrapolate and get to something real special. In reality this is often not the case, actual limitations apply and not all problems are fixable.

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Those are slick from the added glass powder for reflectivity.

Who’s putting Teflon on road stripes…?

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https://www.piped.video/watch?v=N3bJnKmeNJY

Piped is a privacy-respecting open-source alternative frontend to YouTube.

I’m open-source; check me out at GitHub.

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In other news, snow blindness is on the rise in suburbia.

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Super awesome. Not only is it white and shiny aluminum oxide, it uses a nanostructure, as observed on beetles, to maximize reflection, minimizing heat retained.

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What’s the gains in contrast to regular white bathroom tiles? (Not a joke question)

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Thanks for following up!

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But what about it getting dirty and how well does it resist having its nano structure getting damaged? Like, there’s that spray that can make sneakers or clothes virtually stainproof…until you wear them several hours or rub your hand against them.

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