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Exposing children to social media.

Putting your kids on social media publicly.

The kids that grew up with it will probably see the harm caused and not want to pass that on.

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Yea this. It’s the cigarettes of our generation. “I don’t know, everyone was doing it back then”, we’ll all say.

And our blind acceptance of it all, to the point of allowing it to replace journalism and politics, will be seen as dumb in the same way we now breath in some cigarette smoke and see it as obviously unhealthy.

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21 points

I think the dumbing effect it’s having on us as a society might even stop us from ever having realizations like his ever again though

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I don’t know about that. Younger millenials that grew up with social media are having kids and I see them posting about it.

For better or worse, I think social media is here to stay in some form or another. Maybe theyll fight harder to put some limits on it but I’m skeptical

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Even when the US was down to like 20% smokers, in some European countries it was in the high 40s. Social media will DEFINITELY stick around. The question is how it’s viewed.

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I agree with you fundamentally. How do you feel about social media that is decentralized, open source, and non-corporate like Lemmy, Friendica, Pixelfed, et? I think these decentralized platforms are much less toxic because toxic people quickly get banned and shared with others. Furthermore, I think that with proper education of what social media is and what the positives and negatives are - including adverse consequencies - could be very beneficial. When social media is done in a positive way, it can be a great way to build friendships and exchange ideas and information. That much said the corporate social media is awful and in no way would I want to subject children to it as it could set them up for psychological trauma with real and lasting consequences to their mental health.

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Would still not expose my kids. Anonymity brings out the worst in folks. And social media gets used for bullying no matter the platform.

As an adult, able to practice some opsec, and kcomfortable with their sense of self. Fine.

As kids, mine won’t have access. I have had family comment because we ask for our kids not be to put on Facebook. They understand a bit more now, 10 years later, but only to a point.

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I can respect where you’re coming from, and largely, because I feel the same way. I am in no way qualified to give you any paternal advice because I don’t have children of my own. I can only speak to the mistakes my parents made on my brother and I which actually subjected us to ridicule and bullying from classmates. My parents carefully managed what my brother and I would be allowed and not allowed to watch on TV. One of the results of this was not knowing what The Simpsons was all about when the first episode aired. The fact that we had no idea what our peers were talking about left us in a bad way. Now granted, our parents never explained to us the reasons and benefits for doing what it was they were doing so it felt autocratic. If I had to guess, you are probably taking a very different path that helps your children to understand the reasoning why they would be better off, sans social media.

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This isn’t social media. I don’t know you and I can’t pretend to know you. This is a discussion board/ bulletin board/ forum dressed in new clothes, and I’m cool with that.

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Hopefully for profit health care, but I’m not holding my breath.

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46 points

Definitely don’t hold your breath.

If you pass out and hit your head, do you know how much that would cost to go to urgent care?

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3 points

So how to we take down the corporate overlords?

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1 point

We stop getting sock/hurt/giving birth.

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63 points

Meat eating is a possibility. I don’t see it being universal, but veganism is on the ride and it makes sense to a lot of people.

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It’s just not sustainable. Lab-grown meat is here, it just needs to get to scale, get a bit cheaper and boom. Farming and killing animals for food will be obsolete.

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19 points

Farming as a whole will still not disappear at all, animal agriculture will change, but will also not disappear.

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That is, of course, providing it’s sustainable, which at the moment it isn’t.

https://www.ucdavis.edu/food/news/lab-grown-meat-carbon-footprint-worse-beef

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This is the first thing that came to my mind, too. I’m a omnivore myself and admittedly love my meat, but it’s very bad for the environment and I can’t deny the ethical concerns are there. At the very least, I can see low key vegetarianism being the norm in 20 years, where the norm would simply be to not have meat products, and meat might instead be a more niche diet or simply not the norm.

If lab grown meat manages to become scalable enough, I can also see that nearly completely replacing “real” meat. Once it’s at least as affordable, I think “real” meat’s days would be numbered. It’d become a thing only for purists/elitists/exotic diners. I would even expect that lab grown meat would eventually become cheaper than “real” meat simply because it would be far faster to grow and take fewer resources than to grow an entire animal to adulthood.

As an aside, would labe grown meat be considered vegan? I think it would be since no animal is harmed in the making of it. I imagine many existing vegans wouldn’t want to eat something that tastes like meat, but it would be the thing that converts practically everyone else. I sure don’t see why I’d ever want to eat “real” meat again if I could get a comparable lab grown meat that doesn’t harm animals and is better for the environment. That’s just a win win.

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Lab grown meat is grown from cell cultures that were taken from animals that were not capable of consenting to donate these cells.

Hardcore vegans will likely still despise it, but for a lot of less hardcore vegan people it might become an option, especially if marketing hides the origin.

IMHO it’s more important that the carbon footprint of growing cell cultures is bigger than that of growing animals. Unless this changes, lab grown meat is not an option to fight global warming.

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5 points

I think in the grand scheme of things, if you have to ask if something is vegan, it’s probably not worth worrying about too much. Perfect not being the enemy of good and all that.

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17 points

This definitely. For ethical or cost-effective reasons. I think price is going to be the main incentive. If its a dollar less a pound for lab grown hamburger and options at fast food outlets - we’ll definitely be there. Real meat will become the new “fancy food” - wasteful and indulgent spending.

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When the quality and cost of labgrown meat matches the real thing - we’ll see the tables turn. Especially if they’re able to produce various *cuts^ and styles.

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Traditionally grown meat will go the way of vinyl. Slowly fall out of popularity, then eventually become a status good, popular among aficionados, ignoring its actual inferiority in blind tastings. Calling it now, in 25 years, most US beef will be Kobe style, “we brushed our cows’ hair and sang it lullabies” and differentiated by marketing.

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Even beyond that, I wouldn’t underestimate the power of cultural change. From what I can tell, drugs, sex and clearly defined gender identities are all on the decline in the younger generations in the west. I’m not sure there’s any good or clear external force pushing this. I think it’s just change. When it comes to eating meat, it’s pretty easy to start thinking through why you don’t need to do it as much as the typical western diet does, which feels pretty ripe for some form of merely cultural change.

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My theory is that drugs, excessive sex and to some extent petty crime are partly a result of boredom for teenagers.

Teenagers today have less reasons to be bored than a generation or two ago. Instead, they’re getting dopamine fixes from social media and gaming.

I’m not sure if that’s related to dieting.

If done right, the cultural climate to change from eating living things to lab grown meat will be as simple as ordering the same dishes at restaurants with substitute ingredients that nobody notices.

And cost. It’s hard to justify a diet change otherwise.

Americans went from eating sheep to cows in the 1800s because cows were cheaper per pound, more resilient to diseases and easier to maintain.

Veganism is popular because it’s still a cost effective diet. Mass farming is compatible with it.

I can easily see “Pepsi Challenge” style ad campaigns where people blindly guess which bite was the real meat - and which one they prefer.

Though, I also see a backlash. In a way that the proliferation of hybrid and electric vehicles created the anti-environmental practice of “coal rolling”, whereas asshats modify their truck engines to produce more pollutants to own the libs.

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My money is on this one. Once we find a more sustainable way to get meat, and that scales to the globe, whatever that method is, I think the idea of keeping animals only to kill then will quickly be viewed as abhorrent.

Likely won’t be as quick as within 20 years, however. Lots of companies currently making a fortune selling meat who will stand in the way of that.

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58 points

Just spitballing, but potentially:

  • undeclared AI usage for photos, video, code, etc
  • driving old beater cars or even nicer old ones like corvettes
  • Being outside during the peak of the day’s heat
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undeclared AI usage for photos, video, code, etc

I think this is the one. It’s this generation’s Napster, but the difference is it’s not Britney Spears and Metallica getting robbed. It’s every artist who ever posted their work to the Internet, and that’s a huge, huge deal.

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Most modern music is a collection of sounds and samples made by other people put together to create a new track. Then they sing over it using autotune. That has been accepted and normalized by the masses.

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I’d sooner drive an old beater over even an EV with fifteen million computers that I can’t hope to service myself tbh, and motherfuck getting gouged by the Firestone or god forbid, manufacturer mechanic shops for them to do it. Until coast to coast, America’s cities are walkable, you won’t catch me in a computer’d out car.

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Gotta agree with that sentiment. Got an old single cylinder carb-fed bike that I’m not looking to trade for a beep-booper any time soon

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I agree with the first two, but the third one will happen only when most things catch on fire during the peak hot times. Workers in Texas don’t get water breaks in the current heat wave.

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Protesting.

The future looks scary to me.

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Hopefully that goes the other way and it is more normal to do so

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We could learn a lot from the French.

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