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I mean… it’s amost as if Skyrim has years of iteration under its belt and a thriving modding community who can use mod tools to keep things fresh.

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Older, cheaper game with a vastly larger modding scene has more players? No shit, Sherlock!

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Don’t forget most people bought Skyrim before it was on game pass, and starfield launched on it

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It’s also conflating 1 game against 3 seperate versions of another.

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Yeah this type of ‘news’ is pointless. Regardless of which is better, there is just far more content for Skyrim. Of course it has more longevity.

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Yeah? So does Fallout 4 and it has lower player numbers currently…

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Pointing out how much of a flop Starfield has been is beating a dead horse at this point, but it’s a horse that deserves a beating after how dismissive the fanboys were at launch.

“YoU jUsT hAvEn’T PlAyEd It EnOuGh”, turns out they were the ones who hadn’t played it enough to realise how repetitive it is.

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is beating a dead horse at this point

The horse in question.

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Clearly that guy can take a beating still, with that gorgeous armor. Not even a dent!

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Looks incredibly impractical for walking through tall grass tbh

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The only thing we managed to beat was its shadow

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Younger gamers have no idea that this was the moment where we failed to safeguard their future.

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As someone who didn’t use the Internet at all for a month after it released to enjoy it without moany Internet people to try and ruin my fun, discourse about this game online that I have seem has been like 90% against it.

Do you all not get tired being so relentlessly negative about these games? I swear it’s only the angriest redditors that came over here because it’s so demoralising seeing constant lies and exaggerations from Bethesda hate fanatics.

Sure call me a fanboy, I’d rather be obsessively enjoying something than whatever the hell you all like to do

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I literally went into it with a positive attitude, ready to accept it for what it was, and tried to focus on the the good parts of the game, of which there are many.

I’m already done playing because it’s repetitive and doesn’t have the same feel of exploration that Skyrim, Oblivion, and Morrowind had, mostly because of the overreliance on fast travel between planets.

Objectively, it’s not a terrible game. The problem is that even those of us who gave it an honest shot have to be honest with ourselves and admit it isn’t good either. It’s just middling, which is fine. A lot of games are kind of just meh and that’s okay. Some of those games are deeply loved by a small set of passionate players, and that’s okay, too.

Further, it came out two weeks after a game that shoved a hot firebrand under the ass of every video game developer because of how quality the game was. Bethesda couldn’t have released at a worse time, and I think there’s more negativity due to that, because now gamers can say “I know what I’ve been missing.” They have something that is way above middling, fucking fantastic really, to compare it to.

Is that comparison fair? Honestly, yes, because Baldurs Gate 3 isn’t doing anything groundbreaking other than bringing CRPGs back to their roots. Anyone who played Baldurs Gate, Baldurs Gate II or the original Fallout would understand this, because BG3 really mimics the style of those games while also bringing the graphics into the modern era. If anything it’s a return to form for the industry, and now people are simply going to demand that level of detail in their fictional worlds.

Finally, Bethesda has always had shitty writers, so there’s that. They always fixed it by making the world you existed within engaging to interact with. Starfield is sadly just not that engaging, and thus the bad writing really shines through.

Sure call me a fanboy, I’d rather be obsessively enjoying something than whatever the hell you all like to do

As if we’re not fanboying over and obsessively enjoying other games instead.

All the endless Baldurs Gate 3 memes couldn’t be because people enjoy it could it?? /s

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I’d say you’ve seen 90% hate because you weren’t there for the first week. I’m not saying all people who enjoy it are fanboys, it’s people who were telling other people they were just playing it wrong when it first came out.

Either way, if you enjoy the game then good for you, you don’t need my permission and are best just looking past other people’s criticisms if you like it.

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You’re a fan boy =) seriously thou, other people are disappointed. If you like it good for you but other people are entitled to their opinions as well

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Todd Howard for the last decade: PLAY SKYRIM!

Todd Howard now: Stop playing Skyrim please and PLAY STARFIELD!

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Soooo many people boarded the hype train. Speaking of, there’s only a few hundred viewers left on Twitch as well, 2 months after release lol.

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Part of the issue is that it also took them 2 months to get any sort of qualified patch out the door.

The previous ones only fixed like 2-3 game breaking bugs each and that was that.

The most recent one does a tad more, but still nothing to write home about.

Some people keep parroting that Bethesda has always had a absolutely horrid trackrecord of patching their messes, so you shouldn’t complain about that, but I refuse to give them a pass on that.

People that keep saying that are pretty much saying “yeah, me dog shits in my bed every single day and I’m not going to do anything about it because they’ve always done that.”

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And they originally wanted to release around when Redfall released.

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After two months everybody literally saw all the game had to offer, so no surprise there.

It’s getting dumb what spins they’re putting on all of this Starfield coverage. Yesterday it was getting stiffed for Game Awards nominations, today it’s low playercount on Steam. I wonder what it’s going to be tomorrow, because Microsoft paid for coverage, good or bad.

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Stiffed?

To get an award you have to have earned it.

They weren’t stiffed on anything as they didn’t earn anything.

This while from day one they were talking like they deserved a Grammy (which they literally posted on their press release page).

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There were a few articles about it earlier this week (can’t find them, but they got posted on Lemmy). Feels like average outrage farming from “games journalists” honestly, since all the articles I can find about it now are from today about how “Nuh uh, it actually didn’t get snubbed! Your articles are wrong!”

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