cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/1756544

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In my country, absolutely not. Religion is a pretty subdued and private matter to begin with. It does not interfere with politics and attempts at doing so get shut down pretty quickly.

Or did you mean to ask in the context of a specific country, Op?

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Atheists here in the US can only dream of the religious/political agreement you enjoy. American Evangelicals have divorced themselves from objective reality.

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You had it once. You can get it back.

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I fear it’s going to take some extraordinary measures that will hurt a lot of people. It would be ugly all around.

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Absolutely. And I am on the left. Christian nationalism is *anti-*democratic. The whole idea is everyone lives by what the Bible says or else.

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All religion is a threat to democracy. Nationalism just makes it a threat to other democracies too. Hatred always requires a target.

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Meh. Unitarians, Quakers, Jews aren’t assailing anyone. Johos either.

Some “religion” like Judaism is more a culture than a standalone institution, and isn’t inherently political.

Religions that are canned, like most of Christianity, I think is frequently dispicable. (the sects that aren’t? Clean your fkn house, eg of southern baptists and other toxic evangelicals.)

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You are wrong about Judaism in it’s more conservative and extreme forms. Hell, even Buddhism in it’s more extreme forms is nationalist and oppressive of non-believers.

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The Palestinians would have a differing opinion of the Jews. The Quakers would happily end democracy if they had the numbers. Fortunately they also happen to be pacifists. The Unitarians are also in the place of not having been a majority. Again, given the option, they would institute a rigid hierarchy in place of a democratic government. It’s build into their world view of having a daddy figure that rules all.

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No argument from me. Only defense is I was speaking loosely and about this moment in the US. Def not about Israel the state.

To me religion is a weird crutch, like an illness. Religions in practice can be (to non participants) benign to toxic. Internally, no comment, no experience except creepy catholicism in my long ago youth.

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In America, it is one of the biggest threats to freedom and Democracy we face. Even the word “freedom” to them means you are forced to follow their religious edicts. Nothing makes sense in a Christo-fascist world.

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Christian Nationalism, if you want my unabashed opinion, should be labeled as domestic terrorism. This is how strongly anti-religion that I am.

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Not that you need defense but they are domestic terrorists by mere definition. How anti-religion you are doesn’t even need to come into play.

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Yes, they’re objectively terrorists

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