Is there anything better than SimpleX for total anonimity?

Although I also use Molly, a modified version of Signal, even with people that have my number for Signal I still prefer SimpleX for everybody, but unfortunately Molly/Signal is easier for some people.

Especially for things like resetting phone or changing phones, with Molly they know where I am and there’s no need for an invite link with SimpleX, but I still grealy prefer it.

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I’ve started using SimpleX with a few privacy minded friends, we migrated our Group from Signal to SimpleX. The experience has been great so far!

What I don’t like about SimpleX is that it’s still missing proper Desktop/3rd Part Apps as far as I’m aware. Furthermore the whole project is still in it’s infancy.

Though it’s already usable day to day.

My plan moving forward with SimpleX is writing a nix-flake to build SimpleX Chat CLI on nix.

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Yes, there’s no desktop provram for SimpleX. I don’t know if due to SimpleX constantly being improved, there is inadeguate resources to build a desktop client.

I find the best desktop messeging programs for consistency are all on Windows unless it was originally designed as a federated platform.

I’m considering using Signal on FreeBSD if I’m going to messege on computer, it’s in the ports system to build it. It seems OpenBSD haz the libraries for it but not the full desktop client.

Linux is too chaotic for my liking for what works and what is not consistently stable.

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You can get a well grade of anonimity with Briar or Session.

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Not on the same level as SimpleX. With Briar and Session you have you have the same ID for everybody.

For SimpleX you can create a new random ID with each contact, so if you talk with 8 people, SimpleX will create 8 random ID’s and each contact will see you as someone different than how the other contacts see you.

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Do you want anonymity or ease of use? You won’t beat anything that uses actual phone numbers for mass adoption. You won’t find an app that allows for true privacy that uses actual phone numbers. These things are mutually exclusive.

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Matrix comes with a lot of issues, but many of those are at least somewhat mitigated by the ability to create as many burners as you want. Signal/Molly might not have many problems like federation leaks and servers refusing to delete data, but you’re kinda stuck with your one account/ID.

SimpleX is still the best though.

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I really like delta chat as well. Anonymous mails are easy to come by and everyone has an email adress. Bonus: people actually start encrypting their messages.

IMHO, it is a good balance between adoption and security. Still not perfect, though.

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I’ve looked at Delta chat and have wondered if it’s worth it. I only use webmail on computer for all of my emails because I need the screen real estate, zero email on phone. Phone is only calling and messaging.

Should I give Delta chat a try for doing long form emails including documents?

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Only if you like the “Messenger App” form factor. Delta chat is nothing but a mail client with a messenger UI. Fortunately, that includes automatic PGP encryption for users who do not know what that is (similar to what whatsapp/signal did for E2EE).

You can still try it out. It literally has no downsides. And if you like to use it as a chat-client only, it supports that option, too.

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