217 points

I wonder whether the average person is really as retarded as they are made out to be by large corporations.

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194 points

Unfortunately, yes.

When Netflix clamped down on password sharing I expected a mass exodus back to pirating and more people self hosting like I did.

Instead they complained for 3 days and brought out their wallets.

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8 points

Thinking people are retarded because they don’t pirate or self-host. Most people don’t have the time, room, energy to do it, you must be a genius

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4 points

Bit of a leap there. I was merely saying consumers gonna consume no matter what the overlords demand in return.

Just earlier today I had to beg my cousin to get a DOS laptop with an i3 and ssd over a windows machine with a celeron + emmc for the same price. The task of installing windows was enough to make him see these options as equal.

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I find it a tad arrogant to believe costumers can’t make rational decision that differ from those of the vocal online minority of reddit et al. Whenever a website changes its product (arguably for the worse, most of the time) said minority prophesizes the end, and calls out some kind of revolt, whereas the vast majority of users or costumers customers just makes due with the slightly worsened conditions, simply because they still see the product as worthwhile. Netflix, for all its flaws, still is a decent product for a decent price, as long as you’re into the kind of slop they produce. And there probably is a large portion of costumers customers who weren’t even affected at all by the recent changes.

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14 points

I feel this is relevant for both costumers and people who don’t wear costumes when using reddit.

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5 points

Posting for it is still easier than learning how to pirate and dodging lawsuits.

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4 points

Dodging lawsuits? Bruh you sound like you’re scared.

No one is going to come after you with lawsuits because you’re pirating movies. Worst case scenario your ISP ends your service after sending you a dozen warnings over the time span of a year.

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94 points

The difference is, that Netflix (or Spotify, or whatever) does bring value on its own. I am paying money to comfortably and legally stream content, which itself is paid for and licensed by the streaming provider. From the perspective of a lazy end user, it’s worth it, because you do not need to care about downloading, finding releases, opsec and whatnot. I don’t want to protect Netflix, fuck corporations and subscription services, but password sharing was always only tolerated at most. From the same end user perspective, reddit is just an empty platform. The content is brought in free of charge by the community. And now not only they want the same community to pay, but also for an objectively worse experience? I don’t think that you can compare that.

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20 points

Agree with you, but small nitpick, password sharing was encouraged at some point, at least from the PR side of the business.

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Weirdly, I’ve been using my parents’ Netflix credentials still and haven’t been kicked off yet. They live hours away so there’s no mistake there about being in the same household.

Hopefully I’m not tempting fate too much by talking about it on the Internet lol

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Plot twist: Your parents can’t access their Netflix anymore but aren’t tech savvy enough to understand why, so they’re back at watching classic broadcast television.

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1 point

My brother is on my account in a different state and neither he nor I have been booted. Hoping we just got missed and they’ll never notice.

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7 points

A relative I share an account with got the prompt last month. I setup a VPN at my place so they could connect once a month and “check in” at home with their mobile app. After that they could disconnect and continue watching on their Roku.

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Well, why would they ditch for piracy? Netflix was smart about the whole thing: adding an authorized household (not user, entire household) is cheaper than creating a new subscription. The people subscribing to Netflix aren’t fundamentally opposed to paying for streaming, they were opposed to an unfair change in the business model. Netflix countered with a seemingly fair change in the business model that now eliminates the hassles that come with password sharing and could make the marginal increase in cost per household fairly small. It was overall a pretty smart business decision.

There are many many problems with Netflix, including their growth-based business model, the lack of insight into their finances, and the way they’re slowly enshittifying the film industry. They’re a major reason for the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes. However, this change wasn’t stupid and people weren’t stupid for going along with it. I don’t see how it would lead to an overall increase in piracy, that’s being driven by the many new streaming services forcing costs on consumers. But consumers won’t blame Netflix for that because, frankly, that’s not Netflix’s fault.

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2 points

My GF pays for Netflix and other than some annoying messages and text account sharing is still possible, not as cool as before though.

Anyway, as she does not have the premium version, or whatever is called (no 4K) good quality picture films we end up watching them on Stremio lol.

She doesn’t care, but I do.

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53 points

I can somewhat understand both perspectives. Although I too sail the high seas, if you don’t have the aptitude to self host, and you only care to binge a show over the weekend, $12 (or whatever it costs now) is a somewhat justifiable expense. I mean, 1 comic book is $4-$6 on average these days. One of those might provide 15 minutes of entertainment and a month of anticipation. $12 is a good value.

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6 points

Even if only spend a few hours a month watching, it’s still pretty cheap entertainment.

Hell, some good beers while binging a season will literally cost more than the monthly fee.

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8 points

The strange thing, to me atleast, is that you can even just stream shows and movies on websites like bflix with subtitles for every language. I have friends and family that would pay netflix their left leg if they asked them to. And now they’re stuck with a bunch of subscriptions to multiple streaming services because everything is split between multiple platforms.

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13 points

Everything I want to watch is readily available for streaming. Why self host unless you want to keep copies?

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2 points

I kept paying for a little while, until I had ripped everything off their site I wanted to see, then I cancelled lol.

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3 points

…ripped? From Netflix?

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36 points

Obviously yes. Reddit could change the app icon to a swastika and hide the real icon behind a $50 paywall and people would still use the app because of convenience.

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2 points

What? Redditors would pay MORE to change their icon to a swastika. Change the icon back, and charge $50 for a hate symbol and you got yourself a steady income, baby!

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8 points

“Don’t want your friends to think you are a nazi? Simple, just pay us 1 bitcoin… every month”

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28 points

Don’t steal Elons ideas!

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6 points

Musk stole all his ideas for Twitter from Trump, so there.

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12 points

Remember a scary thing about average IQ: half of the people have IQ below that number, hence “average”.

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7 points

That’s not really how averages work, that’s the median, but I get your point. In order for that to be average there have to be scores lower.

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13 points

Median can also be called average. Average doesn’t strictly mean mean

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17 points

just look at election-results around the globe and how easily a lot of people are fooled by populists…

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1 point

I saw this way before Reddit went batshit. I had the pride doge one, it was one of a couple of free ones.

Yes, Reddit is a shit show. But this isn’t a new thing they’ve just done. So I don’t know why it’s being brought up as ammo now. It’s been around for ages. Reddit are assholes, but bringing old stuff into this as if it’s brand new, not cool.

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10 points

This is new because they removed the regular free icon and replaced it with an ugly pixelated one.

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19 points

Wasn’t the original icon free though? Now you only get the pixelated one.

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18 points

Yeah that’s the main thing, the original icon is now paywalled, with the idea being you get this crap looking one until you pay

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10 points

If you told me reddit was just funded as a giant psychological experiment to see how much shit people will put up with to stay on social media, I might believe you.

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56 points

This title is exceedingly misleading. This icon is not “ugly” and is an obvious marketing stunt to bring awareness to the return of r/place. Wether or not you think r/place should come back is irrelevant to this discussion. Reddit didn’t “make the icon ugly” so people would pay to fix it.

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37 points

Two things can be true at the same time.
The fact that there really is an icon named “Original” that is locked away does not help. The old icon simple isn’t there at the moment as far as I could see.
So even if they changed the icon for /r/places the fact that you won’t even see the old icon in the selection and that it’s nowhere mentioned that that is the reason for the (temporary) change will properly lead enough just buy premium. Hopefully users that forget to cancel once the normal icon is back.

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I would probably pay tbh. I hate my home screen looking bad. I’m on Android and use custom icons, but if I had no other options I’d pay for it.

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31 points

$50 per year to change an icon.

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-10 points

It’s not about the money. It’s the stench of the thing.

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8 points

They bent us over rather than asking for consent.

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40 points

That must be great to have so much money to spend it on things so futile and unnecessary 🤔

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2 points

Necessary is a matter of perspective.

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2 points

Sure, but don’t you think that when an app’s icon becomes a necessity, maybe it’s time to question yourself ?

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that’s the whole point of what they’re doing, to get people like you that aren’t bothered, to pay for something that could be easily fixed. they created the problem on purpose…

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8 points

It’s a subscription, you’re telling me you’re willing to keep paying just for the icon? And not a cheap one for what it’s worth either.

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1 point

That is what I’m telling you.

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You are, what they call in the field, a “sucker”.

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1 point

I’m just someone who will pay for something to look good. If that makes me a sucker then I guess I have too much money.

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2 points

You do.

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19 points

So, 6 dollars a month just to unlock the original icon?

There’s no way you can be serious about that one. What else does reddit premium offer? No ads and an icon? How can anyone justify the price for that. At least with youtube premium you get a music service as well as no ads.

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1 point

I am serious.

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1 point

Do you have no boundaries?

It’s 6 dollars for no reason. Do you just roll over for every coporation that wants to fuck you over?

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13 points

What you just described is called ransom.

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5 points

that doesn’t sound so bad

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4 points

not you, cheeky bugger

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27 points

Spez is a fucking clown… I hope reddit dies soon.

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-2 points

“Dylanthedeveloper” on here apparently. He was spamming all over the other day about some drivel or another.

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