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This needs to happen with Appl too. AppleTV/Safari/Messages/etc app for MacOS + SIP my ass. Its not integral and if you’ve made it so you need to unmake it so, along with other bundled crap. SIP should literally refer to that and only that in aggregate which is necessary to ensure the system is able to function, not per se function in an un-overruleable way for the maker.

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Don’t forget TV brands like samsung and LG who force some apps down your throat even if you don’t want them. You can’t remove those apps. Amazon is even worse with their firetv devices, they just install apps on your behalf that you can’t remove. We don’t own anything anymore.

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Ya but I can just use a box and not have the TV itself connected to the internet and you can have it in gaming mode so you basically never see the splash screen with all tha crap

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I do this as well, but the smart TV bullshit on my Vizio constantly switches itself back on.

I have a button on my remote now that fixes my input by switching to the box in one fell swoop because this happens so much. There is no setting to stop this, as I already have it set to not change the input.

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Yes. They should allow removing apps like Safari and, as you said, Apple TV, iMessage, and other non-basic (on a computer) utilities, then downloading them again from the App Store.

On an unrelated note, I also turn off SIP to change the icons of system apps.

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44 points

Wait Windows users are allowed to manage their software ?!? Get out of town.

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As a certified windows user, can confirm, I do not have free will to install anything

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yes, and it’s easier than linux

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1 point

checks notes Registry editing?

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35 points

You can remove Windows completely from your life with very little effort, no matter where you live and it’s free! In the world of today there is no need whatsoever for that exploitive and in short bad OS anymore.

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unless you want your programs to run

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I mean some stuff is still running windows 98. What programs are you really needing to run?

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9 points

Same ol Adobe and Microsoft products

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Which one? apache2? mysql? php-fpm? python? ftp? smb? nodejs?

Not sure about you, but I’m using those to make my living.

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This comment is so out of touch.

I work in CAD and 3D printing and I’d be completely dead in the water if I used Linux.

No fusion 360, no cura

I bet there are plenty of other apps that I rely on that are not available on Linux.

I’m not some sort of Windows fanboy either. I’m disgusted with their action in the recent years.

I run Linux on my home server, but not my main computing machine

Let’s be realistic here, your experience is not universal

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To be fair, PrusaSlicer and its derivatives do have native Linux support. And you can use Onshape from the browser on Linux just fine and it is honestly really good. I do a lot of this stuff too

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I’m not an expert, but I really doubt that most open source software can compete with the features and support of enterprise products. In almost every industry there are FOSS alternatives to professional software, but they mostly get ignored. If you really could pump out the same quality of work as quickly, I don’t think that most companies would forego the opportunity to save some money on licensing fees.

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8 points

Agreed, I hate how people blindly use Windows because “that’s what my shitty HP laptop shipped with”

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3 points

…unless you have a machine that doesn’t run linux well.

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If it’s been a while you could try again as the kernel gets updated with support for various hardware.

One of my laptops was awful with Linux but after a good while I tried reinstalling a fresh distro and it ran like a dream.

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Yeah. Many of the complaints surrounding Linux and hardware are BS. But complaints about Linux running well on cutting edge hardware are often founded.

Linux devs can only stary supporting new hardware once they have access to it or to accurate specs. Often, this is only once the hardware has been released.

But 6-month old, and moreso 1-year old hardware? Generally works like a (good) dream.

This is why hardware vendors that design for Linux are so important (thanks, System 76!).

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Yeah. I was thinking of a particular gaming laptop, which does run almost perfectly with the latest kernels. But it’s not all the way there yet.

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6 points

As in the PC has some hardware which only has proprietary drivers from the manufacturer?

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2 points

Correct.

You can run linux on just any hardware, yet somehow the capitalist still manage to fuck it up.

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Or newer open source drivers that are buggy or missing features.

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2 points

Sort of?

I run Visual Studio Enterprise, no, VS Code is not sufficient for some needs.

I have to edit complex PDFs in Adobe. Free, open source readers are not enough.

Even the best linux RDP or WebRTC or otherwise apps still don’t seem to provide quite the same speed as RDP into windows hosts/servers.

I have to use Teams daily across multiple orgs, and the seemingly discontinued Linux support in lieu of the less-featured browser app / PWA just doesn’t fly.

I’ve found building windows apps on Linux, while seemingly supposed to be net similar, often times do not turn out right.

Need full featured O365 to integrate with your work’s O365? No go. Closest is installing edge on Linux and using the web version, which is subpar.

I hate windows, I use Linux when I can, but to say you can remove it from your life with very little effort is a blanket statement that is just unrealistic for many. To say there is no need is just off base.

Source: I use Windows, PopOS, KDE, Mint, and that apple OS thing that I hate more than Windows.

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I agree it’s very easy and takes very little force to remove windows from your life. Adopting another OS in the other hand…

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Like that would fix the OS.

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20 points

Way too late…I switched away from Windows 100% already. Linux works perfectly fine.

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Too many of the programs I use are Windows only.

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Like what? I’ve found alternatives or many run just fine using Wine. Might run a little slower if your computer is older, but likely everything else is running faster on Linux anyway, so it makes up for it.

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I use many proprietary pieces of software that are only available for Windows.

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Tell that to someone that uses fusion 360 to earn their living.

If you are just going to Facebook and downloading movies and stuff sure…

Linux is great for my home server, terrible for my main machine.

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Your problem is using your personal machine for work.

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Why the hell would I buy an entire different machine just for web browsing and games? Should also get a third one for porn? Lol

It’s great that Linux works for you but you need to realize that it does not work for everyone yet. Your experience is not the same as everyone else’s. If I could run every application I need on Linux I would switch today. I am not happy about my dependence on Windows, but I live in reality

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But can you remove Windows from Windows?

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7 points

Delete system 32

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Nice try, but you need permission from SYSTEM to delete system32.

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3 points

You need to triforce it.

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Throw a brick at Windows to brick it.

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