Google slows down Firefox users when watching YouTube…

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This reminds me of Elon Musk when he started artificially slowing down links to websites he doesn’t like… https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2023/08/15/twitter-x-links-delayed/

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So much for “free speech” lol

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Every single word that comes out of Elon’s mouth is a big fat fucking lie. I don’t understand how people can still trust that guy with anything.

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Free speech is throttled. You might want to buy premium speech for only $19.99 per month!

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Elon Musk was good, but after a failed experiment for the good of mankind he was deviated… now he is misunderstood, like Frankenstein’s Monster

proof: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8H2ETMpRFw

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Must have learned that from his role model, Putin.

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I know everyone wants to be mad, and I’m no fan of Google. But this is almost certainly an unintentional bug.

Google, more than anything, wants watch hours for ad money. They don’t want you frustrated by the alow ux. They want you watching advertisements.

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Yes, there is a 5s timeout in youtube’s code. However, it is not aimed at Firefox users.

The same code shows up on a fresh chrome installation without any extensions. And the code does not check for the user agent. So the 5s timeout is not there to make Firefox a bad choice for youtube. Following response to your link goes a bit deeper into what the code could mean: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/17ywbjj/whenever_i_open_a_youtube_video_in_a_new_tab_its/ka08uqj/

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That doesn’t explain why it stops happening when you change your user agent in Firefox.

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I could believe this, but if google doesn’t want me to be frustrated on youtube, why do they make it so annoying?

Pushing youtubetv in annoying new ways, putting ads in the middle of songs, serving ads with frustrating frequency, using multiple types of ads so your brain can’t just tune out until you hit skip, locking basic functions like add to playlist behind premium accounts.

From their behavior it sure looks like they want me to be annoyed.

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They want you making money from them. So watching ads and paying subscription fees. If you aren’t doing either of those things, you’re causing them to lose money. So yeah, they’re gonna make it annoying.

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wants watch hours for ad money

Ads which can still be blocked fairly easily on Firefox, unlike in Chrome, which is banning ublock(& likely all other blockers) browser-wide next year. They want to make the firefox experience worse so people have a reason to go back to their ad infested browser.

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Nah this doesn’t make sense. You, and everyone else, will sit through five seconds of loading vs watching an ad. You know this, Google know this.

Occams razor is at play here. If they want to to be conspiratorial, they have better and smarter ways to do it.

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Well this rumor came from the linus tech tips forums so just by that I assume it’s sensationalized bullshit.

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If they are able to make you switch, you become a heck of a lot more profitable long term as they’re able to collect a loooot more data

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Unfortunately not. It’s intentional as someone else looked to the explanation below

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Probably connected to them forcing v3 on chrome soon, which will gimp down completely ublock on chrome.

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Might be a very dumb financial decision but maybe it’s time to rethink that whole google search contract renewal coming up in a year or so. Feeling like a toxic relationship

Edit: the time frame is just an assumption due to it being a 3 year contract made in 2020. I would try to seek a relationship with bing tbh, it sucks with privacy but would be a kick to google’s balls. Plus the majority of firefox users who start giving a crap about their privacy, change to duckduckgo in the beginning of their journey so it wont be a massive shift from bing imo in terms of searching experience.

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The biggest problem is the loss of users that that incurs… it would be long term damage for temporary financial boost. I think they already tried once to switch to yahoo and it was an unmitigated disaster

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Yeah I expect that would be the case but I honestly think out of all the other longterm rivals with deep pockets, bing is firefox’s best chance of maintaining most of it’s current userbase and maybe even growing it in the longterm especially if bing ai’s features keep expanding. Else why would bard be a thing if google didn’t feel a bit threatened. Again just my thoughts would like to hear what other opinions are out there.

Edit: would also be a big win for microsoft since a respectable browser is now using it’s search engine and not just a butt of the joke like edge is, so maybe firefox can leveage a good chunk of change from them to keep their browser running for a while unlike the deal they did with google. Think it would ultimately destroy edge though but since edge can now be user uninstalled thats bound to happen in a couple of years anyways and with this deal bing will still get some traffic so still a win for microsoft.

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7 points

I would be willing to donate if they dropped ties with Google to help supplement the less of revenue

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23 points

Google paying them an absolute shitload of money (still pretty small compared to what Google pays Apple). It’d be pretty hard to get the donations to make up a missing half billion.

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32 points

Has space bar stopped working for anyone else with Youtube? I keep spamming it and it sometimes doesn’t work.

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Us j, k, l (-10s, play/pause, +10s). Does not require player focus.

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Based vim user

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Because I use Vim Keybindings in LibreWolf through Tridactyl, I actually can’t use j, k and l for -10s, play/pause and +10s lol

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10 points

Wait its not just me?

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I had a feeling this was Youtube fuckery.

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Here’s the actual source: https://old.reddit.com/r/youtube/comments/17z8hsz/youtube_has_started_to_artificially_slow_down/

The link in the post is just recycling the reddit content.

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