I really like Rossman, he fights a good fight. It also seems like his personality/brand is to be upset about most things.
I get what he was going for, even if he phrased it in a shitty way. His problem was more the mods that caved in and went back, not with the ones who said “I’m done” and stuck to thier guns.
While there’ll undoubtably be much more people coming to here and other places given time (I wasn’t there when people left Digg en mass for Reddit, but I highly doubt it happened in days, or even a year or two), I can’t help but also look at those that went back and think “Would have been better if yall just cut the cord and left Reddit behind completely” because it’s not changing.
Regardless, he was right about not giving a time limit when drawing a line in the sand
Is Reddit winning? It seems too early to tell.
Their refusal to change doesn’t mean they are succeeding. The absolute mess that /r/all became over the weekend is already hurting their ability to sell ads.
Even if Reddit removes all the moderators from these thousands of protesting subreddits and replaces them with people willing to tow the line, that will only stem the bleeding short-term. As the most talented moderators and creators continue leaving the platform, Reddit will slowly lose it’s ability to produce content that keeps people reading.
Digg and Myspace didn’t die in a week.
Communities are not made in a week or months, and we shouldn’t expect that Reddit communities will decline in those time frames, either.
IMO, the only way Reddit survives is with automated automation. Replacing the mods is dangerous precident; any future mods should pay attention to the current situation. Reddit is disincentizing moderators from volunteering.
As much as Louis is on our side in this, I feel like he alone was responsible for the MOST damage to the protest efforts. After his video about how a 2-day blackout wasn’t enough, dialogue from the anti-protest side started to shift heavily toward “this isn’t even going to do anything,” and his video was cited as often to support “we need to do more” as it was to support “you guys are stupid if you think you’re doing anything.” So I hope he finds some room to be pissed off at himself while he’s pissed off about the “failed” reddit protest.
And, spoiler alert: it takes time for momentum to shift, and it’s very much shifting - it’s just not happening as fast as this guy wants it to.
Yeah it’s very interesting that most scabs on Reddit sound very similar to him and his video. Even though his intention was to help the protest, ironically he’s done the most damage to the protest and given the scabs and anti-protestets plenty of ammunition to use against protesting efforts.
I’m sure he’s not even willing to admit where he’s wrong or at fault here, he doesn’t seem like the kind of person to own up, in any meaningful way at least.
I don’t really get how reddit is “winning” if I am no longer using it. Lemmy and kbin have more than filled the gap from reddit. Even if users at large don’t switch immediately, that is fine.