Who played the first game (wrongly) as a sort of power fantasy. Neil druckman has said Joel was a bad person and not a hero.

Imo he got what he deserved.

I also think last of us 2 is a great (albeit brutal) game

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LoU2 kinda annoyed because it’s just makes the main character completely unlikeable and unsympathetic. I basically wanted Ellie to die for being the worst fucking person imaginable.

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Joel killed innocent people out of a misguided desire to protect his daughter. Ellie tortures and kills many more innocent people against the direct requests of her family for vengeance. No competition really

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I don’t like the 2nd one because it’s got the worst case of a soggy middle I’ve seen in a recent game

By the time the actual ending came, I was still fearful that there was gonna be another epilogue

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To each his own. I liked it the entire way through.

Joel got what he deserved

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Joel got what he deserved

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Wow I had no idea. I still think it’s one of the best games I’ve ever played, but that definitely changes how some of the scenes come across.

in case anyone else was as curious as I was

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I just think the last of us 2 has a bad and confused story that doesn’t execute its themes very well, which is not something I’d necessarily say about the first one

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Did you make this post just to dunk on Joel? lol

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I might as well have. The guy was a great character but a terrible human being who got what was coming to him

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It’s ok let it out

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