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The contrast between the war in Ukraine and the war in the Middle East is stark and depressing.

As much as I hate to say it, Ukraine and Russia are demonstrating how a modern war should be fought. It’s ideologically messy, morally ambiguous, heavily propagandized, but at least it’s not one side dedicating all of their efforts to killing civilians because they can’t be bothered to find fighters to fight.

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It’s neither ideologically messy nor is it morally ambiguous - quite the opposite. It’s one of the most black and white conflicts of recent times. Russia invaded Ukraine in an ethnic war and marketed it as some kind of liberation. Russia is in the wrong and must fuck off.

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Ah yes, russia famously not dedicating their efforts to kill civilians by checks notes repeatedly bombing theaters, markets and apartment buildings. Gtfo.

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Somehow still managed to kill fewer civilians in 1.5 years than Israel killed in 2 months.

I guess the real argument is if Russia should be condemned for killing civilians, then so should Israel.

You can’t excuse one and not the other.

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The two issues have nothing to do with each other. In fact, this sort of thinking leads to everyone priotising the israeli-palestine conflict which sidelines the war in Ukraine, leading to the degredation of the already insufficient support.

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This is after a year+ of the war? Meanwhile Israel has killed 11,000+ in a month? Wow

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Crazy how Israel is killing more civilians than Russia and they’re still getting the 👍 from world leaders.

If this doesn’t teach a generation how Israel is above the rules everyone else plays by, nothing will.

I’m just gonna start saying “Israel killed more civilians in Gaza in 2 months than Russia killed in Ukraine in 2 years.” Maybe that will put things into perspective for their tribal-minds.

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It’s 14k now, and the war in Ukraine has been going for almost 2 years now.

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Almost 2 years, yea.

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This is the best summary I could come up with:


GENEVA, Nov 21 (Reuters) - More than 10,000 civilians have been killed in Ukraine since Russia invaded in February 2022, with about half of recent deaths occurring far behind the front lines, the U.N. Human Rights Office said on Tuesday.

The U.N. human rights mission in Ukraine, which has dozens of monitors in the country, said it expects the real toll to be “significantly higher” than the official tally since corroboration work is ongoing.

“The Russian Federation’s war against Ukraine, now entering into its 21st month, risks evolving into a protracted conflict, with the severe human cost being painful to fathom,” she said.

The vast majority of the deaths have been caused by explosive weapons with a wide-area impact such as shells, missiles and cluster munitions, the United Nations said.

Close to half of the deaths in the last three months have occurred far beyond the front lines, the U.N. said, attributing this to Russian forces’ use of long-range missiles and the late explosion of abandoned ordinances.

Older people who may be unable or unwilling to relocate to safer places make up a disproportionate fraction of those killed in Ukraine, the U.N. data showed.


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