I’ve never seen a cop fill up at the gas station.

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The city may have a maintenance depot where city-owned vehicles fuel up.

Same goes for (e.g.) school buses, snowplow trucks, and so on.

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I worked at a small school that had diesel for the buses but vans had to be fueled at a gas station with a school credit card. Police departments in any major (American) city will definitely have several fueling stations for cop cars.

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This. I worked in municipal government years ago. And there were a few different depots for the county vehicles, including police, to gas up.

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It depends on where you live, but a lot of large US cities have their own fueling stations. That way, the city can buy fuel by the tanker load and avoid gas taxes.

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Not likely to avoid tax, more to get discount rate on bulk purchase.

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It’s both. Tax exempt paperwork is annoying, and one of the best ways to minimize it is to minimize the number of purchases that you make. Buy in bulk when you can, because one large purchase is less likely to have an error (or at least, more likely to be noticed) than a hundred small purchases.

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If its government going through a vendor they are likely paying more than market rate.

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More than market rate for a tanker load. They’ll pay more for gas than the local gas station will, but still less than the gas station charges.

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2 points

For a like-for-like product or a different service entirely?

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Loads of pros

Tax is not insignificant, but they could already write that off.

No middle man for what little profit comes from a gas station

They can buy cheaper in bulk

They’re not impacted by shortages and outages they control their own supply

They’re not impacted by quality issues if a gas station gets water in one of their tanks.

They don’t have to track individual purchases for every tankful

No lines

Officers not vulnerable while fueling when they can do it in private

In many places they keep fueling gear in the garage where they park the cars and just refuel that tank with a truck from their own supply.

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City of 30k here, and we have one.

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In my rural county the cops, school busses and basically all the public service vehicles like ambulances and plows fill up at the farmer’s coop, where farmers get cheap gas for their tractors. I have heard that this is not technically legal, because that has is specifically for tractors and has some kind of special price because of that, but I don’t know if that’s true or not. I know you’re not allowed to fill up your regular car there, but some of the farmer’s and cops do.

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I think this is usually specifically for diesel fuel. Certain places have diesel fuel with red dye in it that is tax exempt. Any fuel you buy from a standard gas station has a good amount of tax baked into the price and it’s earmarked to go towards road and infrastructure repair. The thought process is, if you’re not using said vehicle on the road, you shouldn’t have to pay this tax.

So, they dye it red, sell it only at special places, and you get fined pretty heavily if you’re found using it in street vehicles. Typically it’s truckers that do it because most American cars (including cop cars) are not diesel. And I’ve never heard of this setup for regular gas.

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I’ve lived all over, moved a lot, and have never seen a set up like here before, either. But, I’ve also not paid super close attention to farmer’s co-ops before moving here and getting chickens and ducks and doing small scale farming/big ass gardening. Lol. I assume they also sell diesel like you’re talking about. Maybe they just got a deal with the county and I’m/other people here are confusing that for the red diesel thing?

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Still pay taxes even by the tanker. Can still get a lower price but fuel taxes are fuel taxes doesn’t really matter how you buy it.

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Surely a public entity would be exempt from taxes, no?

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Maybe. But in that case they would be exempt at a normal pump as well. Gas station by my house accept tax exempt transactions for the cemetery my family maintains.

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This is so cute cause it is meant to be a shower thought but actually belongs in nostupidquestions

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The city has a private fuel station (or if it’s a large city, they may even have multiple fuel stations,) which they use for their entire fleet of cars. Not just police, but also all the random Parks pickup trucks, Traffic trucks, forklifts, generators, etc…

Even a mid-sized city will have hundreds of vehicles, so it’s easier for them to simply deal with the fuel providers directly. Instead of having to deal with tax-exempt paperwork every time a car needs fuel, they simply buy the fuel in bulk and refuel at the private fuel depots.

When I go to fuel a city car, it has a fob that gets scanned at the pump. This tells it which car I’m filling. Then I have to input the mileage, so it knows how far the car has driven since the last fill. Then I have to scan my city ID, so it knows who is filling the pump. Then finally, it will calculate the amount of fuel needed to fill up and stop pumping automatically once it reaches that; The same way you can put $20 on a pump and it’ll stop, the pump goes “this car gets 32MPG and has driven [x] miles, so it needs [x/32] gallons of gas.”

This is mostly to prevent fuel theft, because I can’t simply fob into the pump then keep the pump active after the car is full. Like I can’t fill the car then also fill up a gas can, because the pump has already turned itself off once the car is full.

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Really what you do is fill up the gas can first, and hope the next guy using the car deals with the consequences.

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If you’re serious, I would assume that it’s not that hard to red-flag cases where fuel mileage drops after you have used the vehicle, as well as before. After it’s happened a couple of times, should be able to identify the cause.

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Fascinating. This is way more buttoned up and controlled than I thought it would be.

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My father used to repair gas pumps for a living. I went out with him on a few jobs. You’d be amazed how many large facilities that have their own fleet of cars end up setting up their own gas station. Universities, large hospitals, movie sets, and of course emergency vehicles.

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