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Hahaha fuck off

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LMAO yeah, how dare they provide an alternative way to log into your account if you lost your phone 😂😂

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What? They don’t suport a username+password login?

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15 points

No. Only phone number. The password is sent by SMS on every login.

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8 points

DDG proxy here I come

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The boomers who are using zuckerapp do have emails. It will work out fine 😁

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8 points

WhatsApp isn’t only for boomers. Pretty much everyone with a smartphone uses it.

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-11 points

People who use edge maybe.

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15 points

In Europe, it’s so common that it is a requirement for some parts of society.

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13 points

No, just everyone in Europe and South America and India.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59040175

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At least edge is a better browser than whatsapp a messenger :-)

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1 point

Never met an it-pro using that thing. And beside some boomers and younger technically challenged, i have never seen one using it. To each his own. People actually use facebook too. Or even twi… Errr. X.

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9 points

In Europe it’s used by almost everyone.

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It is extremely widespread in Europe. In Germany, a good 50 million people (out of 80) use it every day. I would describe myself as very tech-savvy and privacy-conscious and would normally never use it , but since everyone in the family and friends use it without exception, there is no escape. plus quite a lot of business now use whatsapp for contact / support.

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3 points

IT Pro here. I use it. WhatsApp was around way before Zuckerberg was involved with it.

I’m all for getting away from WhatsApp but at this point it’s well ingrained with the general population. I’d love to see RCS take over.

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1 point

You have never been to South America.

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32 points

WhatsApp: “you can now use email to access your account if you can’t use your phone for some reason”

This community: “REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE”

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42 points

People acting like a phone number isn’t 100x more personally identifiable than email are delusional. I have like 700 unique emails atm, and can create a new one within seconds. I only have a few numbers.

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5 points

I have a catch-all address with a personal domain. Infinite aliases for free.

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2 points

Don’t you also get infinite spam?

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3 points

Hmm🤔 I use Migadu and could probably set this up – is this actually a good idea?

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1 point

If they’re all attached to the same personal domain then that’s just as personally identifiable though

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21 points

In my country we’re required to have our own identification tied to the number and we can only legally have a handful of number under a person name. Email is nothing lol.

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6 points

I lived in a country doing that, and couldn’t understand the people making social media profiles with their (actually traceable to a real life identity) phone numbers public. Don’t you love receiving spam calls?

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7 points

I have a very, very old SIM card. It’s from the 3G era, which means I miss out on my phone’s 5G capabilities. However, when I went to buy a new card I found out you’re required to take a selfie and send to the telecom company alongside your ID and email, which is creepy enough to keep me using my 3G SIM…

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2 points

how?

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4 points

I use Proton Mail, which lets you make ‘aliases’, which you can use for different sites. The alias forward staright to your main (or a nominated) email.

You can use https://simplelogin.io/ to do the same, and I’m sure there are similar services around.

E.g. I can’t have feckwhatsapp@feckfacebook.com as my WhatsApp email, and it would forward to whatever account I normally use.

I do this for pretty much everything on line, so they all have their own bespoke email for me.

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The problem is that they’re reaching for emails in addition to phone numbers. Don’t think for a second they’re going to let you login with just email. They want email just to have yet another data metric to profile you with.

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  • using an insecure medium like email to facillitate access to e2eencrypted messages. 1) you cant do that with Signal
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My reeeing depends on if they are going to make it mandatory. And I have a feeling they are coming full force on the enshittification bandwagon.

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20 points

Maybe they need it to link WA accounts to FB accounts.

Signal FTW.

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6 points

I know Signal is technically better but Telegram provides a much better user experience than Signal or WhatsApp and is also less problematic than WhatsApp.

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4 points

Yep.

Telegram is a decent middle ground. UI/UX matters, I’m not sure how the folks at Signal are completely missing that point.

The Signal UI is OK, as a competitor to SMS. But it’s terrible compared to Telegram. This matters to non-technical people, it’s how you get them to use it. Plus the seamless connection between devices - that’s crucial. I can chat using whatever device is in front of me.

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Just out of curiosity, since I am fine with the Signal UI/UX: what would you say are the top features that make Telegram better?

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10 points

Considering Telegram has partnered with Tencent, I wouldn’t say it’s less problematic.

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My understanding is that Telegram is partnered with a non profit crypto group, and that group is partnered with like 20 different companies that validate transactions, one of which is Tencent.

Granted I only read a couple articles on it in the last five minutes cause this was the first I heard of it, there could be more to the story I missed.

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The problem with telegram is that it’s not even e2e encrypted by default.

But the ui is really nice. I wonder why no other project simply forked telegram’s client and focused on the encryption and server side code

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You need to explicate the hell out of this cuz I vehemently disagree and point out, in terms of user experience its dogshit for me (but also implicitly that Telegram is conveniently insecure by default and even if you “encrypt”, ifs a non-documented public slop version of messaging encryption [novel + security by obscurity]

Consequently, I would never be comfortable trusting it

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What do you want expectorated, why IMO Telegram is less problematic than WhatsApp or why the UI is way better than Telegram or Signal? Cause they’re very different things.

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6 points

Signal

Which wants a phone #.

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They are working on doing away with the requirement

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As far as I know, it would still be needed at registration, just would give you an option to hide it and thus it would stop being your main identifier.

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Meta acct

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