They like the idea of a catastrophic event out of their control, or caused by sinners. They don’t like to be the cause because of their own greed and indifference.
I mean there is plenty theocratic terrorists in the US, that support Israeli expansionism and want war with Iran because they hope it to cause the apocalypse.
They are very much fine, with bringing on the end times, and how they didn’t get the memo, that according to their own scripture they’ll all rot in hell for it, is truly mind boggling.
There were also some of the Trump worshippers acknowledging how unchristian he is, but that they should support him, because he could be the Antichrist, starting the apocalypse. So people claiming to be christian say it is a good thing to support the Antichrist…
They think they’ll be slurped up in the Rapture and everyone else will have to deal with the tribulation. Who the fuck knows, I mean, these are Republicans and Evangelicals and Baptists and their ideas are so contradicotry and vague that they really have no idea what the fuck they think. They’re all sinners, and are going to hell, and even though Jesus died to forgive their sins, they still can’t commit sins, but they acknowledged Jesus as savior, so they’re sure to be saved.
My brother’s girlfriend found a really ridiculous pamphlet in the gutter in Albuquerque in 1998 or so about ‘what to do if you miss the rapture’. I guess like, in the bathroom? Maybe at work, sleeping? Surely you’re a great person and should have been part of it, but god missed you.
First it had a bunch of hilarious info and diagrams of what the mark of the best would be - barcode on the forehead, rice-size microchip in your hand, and a credit card slot on the back of your hand, too. It said that the FIRST thing that would happen would be that minions of the Devil would be out to destroy all copies of the bible, so one must get as many bibles as possible and hide them from Satan. That part sounds like a pretty bad idea to me.
Plus while there are signs of the end-times, the actual end is supposed to be Magic Jesus riding back on a majestic sled, smiting evildoers, not just some sciencey crap about warm weather and melting ice and droughts.
It’s actually the antichrist that’s the real sign.
And interestingly enough, there are (imo solid) arguments that Trump fits nearly all the descriptions of what the antichrist would look like.
their handlers have changed the narrative
To be fair, so has science. Which also to be fair is because of real life evidence, not whatever passes for evidence to the religious.
Also it depends on the conspiracy
“Climate issues won’t end humanity, X will instead”
I don’t think there are many people who are simply content with the world. Being content might actually be better
“Climate issues won’t end humanity, X will instead”
Or even
“Climate issues will end humanity”
That just sounds like the 21st century version of “memento mori”. We’ve decided a long time ago that that was not a good credo. So, I like to live by “we’re not dead yet”. The odds were against humanity existing at all, but we’re here anyways. So no matter the odds, there’s always a chance we’ll continue existing.
I’m not a huge fan of this attitude. It’s the same attitude people have when they say “THE EARTH WILL BE FINE WEATHER WE ARE HERE OR NOT” or “HUMANITY WILL SURVIVE CLIMATE CHANGE”
Like yeah, in all likelyhood it’s not going to be the end of humanity. But that’s not the issue and never has been, it’s making the world shitty for humans to live on, it’s causing untold suffering from famine and wars and drowning and weather disasters and that’s what the urgency is about. THATS what people who care about climate change want to prevent.
For a certain portion, it’s because some have become outright theocratic accelerationists. They actively want the situation to get worse, because that means Jesus comes back!
I believe they’re called Dominionists. These are the people that want a major war in Israel because it means Jesus is coming back.
Depends on what part of the texts you read. Gnostics it is by understanding secret knowledge, Paul it is much more by just having the correct faith, James is the act good guy. Worth noting that the likelihood is when James was arguing for works he was arguing for following the rules of Moses i.e. kosher and circumcision not exactly running a charity program. Keep in mind we only know James by his apologists decades later long after the Moses rules vanished that and Paul. And Paul hints James was really concerned about those ancient Jewish laws.
However James 2:14-26 argues those deeds are the result of saving faith, not the cause of salvation itself. Saving faith produces deeds, therefore faith without deeds isn’t the right kind.
They’ve believed the end is near for 2000 years.
Shit, the Bible says that the rapture would happen before a particular apostle would die. Yet, here we are without a 2000 year old apostle.
The gymnastics to make it make sense are that he had a vision of the end when he ‘wrote’ Revelations.
Shit, the Bible says that the rapture would happen before a particular apostle would die. Yet, here we are without a 2000 year old apostle.
Wait what, really?
Matthew 16:28
I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.
Mark 9:1
And he said to them, "I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God come with power.
Luke 9:27
I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the kingdom of God
Re saying John wouldn’t die, that’s actually an inference but a not uncommon theological belief among evangelicals. John 21:20-23
“20 Peter turned and saw that the disciple whom Jesus loved was following them. (This was the one who had leaned back against Jesus at the supper and had said, “Lord, who is going to betray you?”) 21 When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?”
22 Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me.” 23 Because of this, the rumor spread among the believers that this disciple would not die. But Jesus did not say that he would not die; he only said, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you?”” .
I believe OP is referring to Matthew 24:34 (Jesus is speaking answering the question of when he will return): “Truly I tell you, this generation will not pass away until all these things have taken place.”
It never explicitly mentions a “rapture”, but describes an event that evangelicals have interpreted to mean one will happen. Not all denominations believe in the idea…per usual amongst the many diverse belief systems of Christianity.
The most popularly referenced text is this:
In 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 (New International Version), it is written:
“For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.”
I was raised Orthodox and it was never talked about as a “rapture” that specific day was talked about as a good thing when the dead will be reunited with their loved ones and stuff. As bringing heaven to Earth. And that’s why Orthodox are resistant to the idea of cremation, so that you have a physical body to rise. (But I don’t think most view it as literally necessary, just a symbolic thing.)
Never said such a thing, Mohammed CLEARLY states that he doesn’t know when the world will end in several famous hadith.
In fact Mohammed said the world wouldn’t end until several things happen not the other way around.
Some of which are already happening now. Like the arabs competing to build tall buildings.
If you want to challenge this point bring a source and then we can talk.
My source: Sahih Al-Bukhari hadith number 50
Well there happens to be one man who qualifies.
They’re still saying the end is nigh. I’ve legit heard Christians argue that we shouldn’t care about climate change because the rapture is coming any day now.
Also, science was warning us about this in the 80s and 90s too. Society didn’t care then like it doesn’t care now (though it now pretends to).
Science warned us about the possibility of climate change over a hundred years ago. We’ve been passing the buck for generations.
edit: Citation1 (1902): https://www.zinnedproject.org/news/tdih/article-warns-of-burning-coal/
Citation2 (1912): https://theconversation.com/for-110-years-climate-change-has-been-in-the-news-are-we-finally-ready-to-listen-188646
Both these projections were based on steady state consumption rates. Our religion of perpetual growth throws that out the window.
Also, it’s infinitely frustrating and heartbreaking for the more senior climate scientists that went from saying “look, if we act now and put our heads together to clean up our act, we can still stop this in its tracks and save the world” early in their career to decades later where basically all that’s left for them to do is try to predict exactly how bad it will get, what regions will be decimated the most and how many billions of people will die from this, while begging everyone to at least mitigate it so humanity as a species might still have a chance, and everyone still don’t give a shit.
The USDA has released a new Plant Hardiness Zone Map for 2023. These were things that use to stay static for decades at least. We can now expect them to be updated every few years at the least now.
