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unpopular opinion preinstalling any browser is wrong

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I think you mistyped “popular”

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Where the fuck would that be a popular opinion?

Quick! You need to install a program, but you can’t remember the exact name of it. You have no browser installed nor a GUI package manager. What do you do?

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There is no situation where you need to install a package while having no Browser installed.

My point is that you should install the browser you want, no have preinstalled programs you may not want or live without a browser.

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That’s the lemmy echo chamber. Poll a hundred people on how to get a program onto a computer without a browser and I’d be surprised if five people answered something other than a disk or that it’s impossible

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other than a disk

These days, they are probably not even going to answer with that. Optical media is almost dead now.

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Even saying “with a package manager” it’s much easier to have a browser to make a search to know what you want to enter to install using the package manager!

I’m sure many Linux users would be dead in the water if they were provided a computer with a distro without a browser/GUI package manager and no alternative way to access the internet.

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If a Distro preinstalls the Torbrowser it is based. Or maybe a Firefox that is actually debloated and hardened, not just having fancy bookmarks and a custom start page (looking at you Fedora)

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Mhm this reminds me of the time when we had in the EU a choice dialog after first boot where you had a selection of browsers to install from.

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I’m kinda hoping they bring this back, then I can move to the EU and be done.

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i think it is very beneficial for the average user to have one of each common software category preinstalled

as long as you can uninstall everything

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That’s a pretty bad take, people into tech seem to mostly use firefox, people who aren’t probably don’t care, and for the people who know baout it and prefer another, can well, just uninstall it, so why not just have firefox so its simpler for everyone?? Like, on Manjaro and Garuda I could do well with that, but what if I use Ubuntu? The browser I like the most is Vivaldi, witch isn’t on the package manager, meaning that I need to download a browser to download another one instead of just using the one already in it to get it

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I think it’s fine if you give the option to uninstall it, many users wouldn’t know where to look to install the browser right away and they need access to the internet to find out (because they’re not familiar with the command line), they probably have a phone to look stuff up, but that’s bad user experience.
Otherwise a first run welcome screen that asks the user which browser they want to install out of a selection (including none) can be a good solution

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54 points

Found the Arch user.

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OS ships with a browser.

Boo!

OS ships with a browser.

Yay!

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It’s not “shipping with a browser” that was ever the problem.

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your OS ships with a browser.

Boo!

my OS ships with a browser.

Yay!

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My OS doesn’t but my DE does

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The latter can be deleted and replaced with no issue

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One of those is a good browser.

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Which is why I remove it and install Vivaldi instead… and ungoogled Chromium sometimes.

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Any benefits in Vivaldi over Firefox?

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What are those features?

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Customization wise, a lot. Speed wise, none at all (it’s slower any way you slice it). Compatibility wise (with websites), the same as Chrome, everything works.

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Edge, especially for work, is fantastic.

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Eh. Something makes DevOps sites load slowly when opening from outlook. Like, opening a handful of links takes a minute or so

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Devops sites? What does that even mean lol?

I’ve never once had links take any sort of noticeable time to open outside of the scanner link/redirect. Which doesn’t have to do with edge or outlook. You probably are conflating two issues.

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Azure DevOps. Another Microsoft product.

No other browser does this, and it only happens when opening the link from outlook. Which does make sense to me because edge has some kind of outlook integration. Probably our incompetent network admin and weird ass network and AD situation does not help, but it’s still a bunch of microsoft products that don’t work properly together.

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This meme makes no sense. Why would Windows want that?

Surprisingly I dont get weird popups when installing Firefox

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It doesn’t have to make sense as long as it bashes Windows.

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