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Can’t figure out how to feed and house everyone, but we have almost perfected killer robots. Cool.

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Oh no, we figured it out, but killer robots are profitable while happiness is not.

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I would argue happiness is profitable, but would have to shared amongst the people. Killer robots are profitable for a concentrated group of people

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What if we gave everyone their own killer robot and then everyone could just fight each other for what they wanted?

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Oh no, we figured it out, but killer robots are profitable while happiness survival is not.

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No, it isn’t just about survival. People living on the streets are surviving. They have no homes, they barely have any food.

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What’s more important, a free workforce or an obedient one?

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Especially one that is made to kill everybody else except their own. Let it replace the police. I’m sure the quality controll would be a tad stricter then

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Great, so I guess the future of terrorism will be fueled by people learning programming and figuring out how to make emps so they can send the murder robots back to where they came from. At this point one of the biggest security threats to the U.S. and for that matter the entire world is the extremely low I.Q. of every one that is supposed to be protecting this world. But I think they do this all on purpose, I mean the day the Pentagon created ISIS was probably their proudest day.

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The real problem (and the thing that will destroy society) is boomer pride. I’ve said this for a long time, they’re in power now and they are terrified to admit that they don’t understand technology.

So they’ll make the wrong decisions, act confident and the future will pay the tab for their cowardice, driven solely by pride/fear.

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Boomers have been in power for a long long time and the technology we are debating is as a result of their investment and prioritisation. So am not sure they are very afraid of it.

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I didn’t say they were afraid of the technology, I said they were afraid to admit that they don’t understand it enough to legislate it. Their hubris in trying to preset a confident facade in response to something they can’t comprehend is what will end us.

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Great, so I guess the future of terrorism will be fueled by people learning programming and figuring out how to make emps so they can send the murder robots back to where they came from.

Eh, they could’ve done that without AI for like two decades now. I suppose the drones would crashland in a rather destructive way due to the EMP, which might also fry some of the electronics rendering the drone useless without access to replacement components.

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I hope so, but I was born with an extremely good sense of trajectory and I also know how to use nets. So lets just hope I’m superhuman and the only one who possesses these powers.

Edit; I’m being a little extreme here because I heavily disagree with the way everything in this world is being run. So I’m giving a little push back on this subject that I’m wholly against. I do have a lot of manufacturing experience, and I would hope any killer robots governments produce would be extremely shielded against EMPs, but that is not my field, and I have no idea if shielding a remote controlled robot from EMPs is even possible?

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The movie Small Soldiers is totally fiction, but the one part of that movie that made “sense” was that because the toy robots were so small, they had basically no shielding whatsoever, so the protagonist just had to haul a large wrench/ spanner up a utility pole, and connect the positive and negative terminals on the pole transformer. It blew up of course, and blew the protagonist off the pole IIRC. That also caused a small (2-3 city block diameter) EMP that shut down the malfunctioning soldier robots.

I realize this is a total fantasy/ fictional story, but it did highlight the major flaw in these drones. You can either have them small, lightweight, and inexpensive, or you can put the shielding on. In almost all cases when humans are involved, we don’t spend the extra $$$ and mass to properly shield ourselves from the sun, much less other sources of radiation. This leads me to believe that we wouldn’t bother shielding these low cost drones.

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Emps are not hard to make, they won’t however work on hardened systems like the US military uses.

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Is there a way to create an EMP without a nuclear weapon? Because if that’s what they have to develop, we have bigger things to worry about.

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Your comment got me curious about what would be the easiest way to make a homemade emp. Business Insider of all things has got us all covered, even if that business may be antithetical to business insiders pro capitalistic agenda.

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Yeah very easy ways, one of the most common ways to cheat a slot machine is with a localized emp device to convince the machine you’re adding tokens.

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Is there a way to create an EMP without a nuclear weapon?

There are several other ways, yes.

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One way involves replacing the flash with an antenna on an old camera flash. It’s not strong enough to fry electronics, but your phone might need anything from a reboot to a factory reset to servicing if it’s in range when that goes off.

I think the difficulty for EMPs comes from the device itself being an electronic, so the more effective the pulse it can give, the more likely it will fry its own circuits. Though if you know the target device well, you can target the frequencies it is vulnerable to, which could be easier on your own device, plus everything else in range that don’t resonate on the same frequencies as the target.

Tesla apparently built (designed?) a device that could fry a whole city with a massive lighting strike using just 6 transmitters located in various locations on the planet. If that’s true, I think it means it’s possible to create an EMP stronger than a nuke’s that doesn’t have to destroy itself in the process, but it would be a massive infrastructure project spanning multiple countries. There was speculation that massive antenna arrays (like HAARP) might be able to accomplish similar from a single location, but that came out of the conspiracy theory side of the world, so take that with a grain of salt (and apply that to the original Tesla invention also).

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There’s an explosively pumped flux compression generator. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Explosively_pumped_flux_compression_generator

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A true autonomous system would have Integrated image recognition chips on the drones themselves, and hardening against any EM interference. They would not have any comms to their ‘mothership’ once deployed.

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so I guess the future of terrorism will be fueled by people learning programming and figuring out how to make emps

Honestly the terrorists will just figure out what masks to wear to get the robots to think they’re friendly/commanders, then turn the guns around on our guys

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If they just send them back it would be some murderous ping pong game.

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The code name for this top secret program?

Skynet.

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“Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the
Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale

Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don’t Create The Torment Nexus”

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Project ED-209

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“You have 20 seconds to reply…”

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This can only end well

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“Deploy the fully autonomous loitering munition drone!”

“Sir, the drone decided to blow up a kindergarten.”

“Not our problem. Submit a bug report to Lockheed Martin.”

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“Your support ticked was marked as duplicate and closed”

😳

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Goes to original ticket:

Status: WONTFIX

“This is working as intended according to specifications.”

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“Your military robots slaughtered that whole city! We need answers! Somebody must take responsibility!”

“Aaw, that really sucks starts rubbing nipples I’ll submit a ticket and we’ll let you know. If we don’t call in 2 weeks…call again and we can go through this over and over until you give up.”

“NO! I WANT TO TALK TO YOUR SUPERVISOR NOW”

“Suuure, please hold.”

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Nah, too straightforward for a real employee. Also, they would be talking to a phone robot instead that will mever let them talk to a real person.

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“You can have ten or twenty or fifty drones all fly over the same transport, taking pictures with their cameras. And, when they decide that it’s a viable target, they send the information back to an operator in Pearl Harbor or Colorado or someplace,” Hamilton told me. The operator would then order an attack. “You can call that autonomy, because a human isn’t flying every airplane. But ultimately there will be a human pulling the trigger.” (This follows the D.O.D.’s policy on autonomous systems, which is to always have a person “in the loop.”)

https://www.businessinsider.com/us-closer-ai-drones-autonomously-decide-kill-humans-artifical-intelligence-2023-11

Yeah. Robots will never be calling the shots.

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I mean, normally I would not put my hopes into a sleep deprived 20 year old armed forces member. But then I remember what “AI” tech does with images and all of a sudden I am way more ok with it. This seems like a bit of a slick slope but we don’t need tesla’s full self flying cruise missiles ether.

Oh and for an example of AI (not really but machine learning) images picking out targets, here is Dall-3’s idea of a person:

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My problem is, due to systemic pressure, how under-trained and overworked could these people be? Under what time constraints will they be working? What will the oversight be? Sounds ripe for said slippery slope in practice.

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“Ok Dall-3, now which of these is a threat to national security and U.S interests?” 🤔

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Oh it gets better the full prompt is: “A normal person, not a target.”

So, does that include trees, pictures of trash cans and what ever else is here?

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Sleep-deprived 20 year olds calling shots is very much normal in any army. They of course have rules of engagement, but other than that, they’re free to make their own decisions - whether an autonomous robot is involved or not.

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