It’s always the patriarchal conquerors like the Ancient Romans or the Ancient Greeks that they idolize and never the people like, say, the Picts or the Celts or the Gaul that rebelled against the brutal Roman empire. It’s never the Scottish or the Irish heroes who fought back against the British Empire that followed in Rome’s footsteps. None of them probably even know who Boudica is.

Ironically, a lot of the stuff you could call “white culture” was burnt at the stake, banned, brutalized, and literally demonized by the Empires that chuds think are so civilized. A lot of pagan culture was lost to time, or warped by Roman ‘scholars’ for propaganda purposes. If they truly cared about their ‘culture’, then "Muh Christian trad wife’ would be seen as killing the identity of pagan women, rather than an aspiration.

But trad wife got the booba

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But what if matriarch got bigger booba? Like massive mommy milker booba

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Big booba pagan wife covered in paint

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25 points

god i wish that were me

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As a slight counterpoint, there are some reactionaries who obsess over historic European pagans (especially Norse but also Germanic and Celtic) for example nazis with their runes. However you do have a point overall, that these reactionaries tend to jerk off to the image of ancient Rome especially

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Yeah, it just goes to further prove that there is no definitive ‘white race’. And white supremacy at its core is flawed and silly.

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Very true

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21 points

Reminds me of this sign I saw at the Ren Faire.

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19 points

Fash can’t create culture: example number 4,345,285,901

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Odin is the All-father, not the Some-father

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had an uncle working in Wales and he realised one workday that he was the only one on the worksite that didn’t love Hitler. Bunch of nazis decided that Christianity was Jewish so they decided to retvrn to Celtic paganism

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6 points

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The Matriarchal pagan stuff is a Victorian romantic invention. We know extremely little about the societies of the Celts and related peoples, with the vast majority of what we do know coming from two accounts, both Roman, which are very obviously reductive takes of similar academic rigour to Victorian anthropologists talking about the Australian aboriginals.

While of course, much of what people are attached to in their fixations on the Romans and Greeks is also Victorian fiction, we at least have a wealth of first hand written sources and corroborating archeological evidence. For the Celtic peoples across Europe and particularly in Britain, we have essentially nothing. No idea of what their religion looked like, what their laws and traditions were or how they organised their society.

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That’s not fair…we have what said Romans wrote about the Celts whom they butchered

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None of them probably even know who Boudica is.

This is certainly true of the reactionaries of today although strangely Victorian Britain did sometimes use Boudica, and celtic resistance to the Roman occupation in general, as something of a propaganda tool against rival European powers which is pretty confusing. Guess it’s a bit like how right wing Italians will try and invoke Giuseppe Garibaldi even though he was involved in the First International.

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Weak men failing to defend Rome…

Why not strong men successfully fucking up Rome?

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Boudica entirely makes sense as a British nationalist symbol a very old idea in British politics from the break from Rome and becoming protestant to brexit is that as we aren’t on the continent we will never be respected in continental Europe and as such being part of any collective European identity means foreign rule. It’s a strong throughline in ideas about the Norman Yoke, Roman Catholic clerical authority being resented, the English civil war and now the EU

Boudica being anti-Roman fits neatly into the political ideology of British meaning not European

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the First International

The first international what?

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The International Workingmen’s Association, the first large international organisation of socialists and proto-socialists.

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I also do not know who Boudica is, please educate me.

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None of them probably even know who Boudica is.

there was an infamous bnp “educational” video once that gave a mediocre recounting of her and the iceni’s exploits (ending with the godawful line “and boudica was WHITE!”) and they couldn’t even say her fucking name right

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Yeah, they don’t give a shit. Just the usual appropriation that right wingers do before idolizing her oppressors the next day.

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Oh god I remember that shit, they also invoked Henry VIII as a great white UK hero which is hilarious given that he was a lousy king who undermined the Kingdom of England’s position as a regional power with all of his bullshit. Not sure why they didn’t go for Elizabeth I who was a far more competent English leader from a right wing/establishment perspective. I guess they didn’t want to include too many women.

Of course, fascists are never going to be good at understanding history, it was around the same time that the BNP was sending out leaflets with a picture of a Spitfire on the cover - a Spitfire in Free Polish markings lmao.

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