I recently downloaded Microsoft Powerpoint on my Mac. I found out that when I edit my presentation it will actually autosave it to cloud, just like the web app. It was working well for a while. But today I closed my window somehow hours of my progress was gone. Turns out that I ran out of the “free 5gb of storage” and I ran out of storage without noticing it, so it did not save. I’m never going for cloud EVER again. We all make mistakes, and this one taught me a lesson not to use cloud storage. BACKUP BACKUP BACKUP GUYS

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What a weird all-or-nothing lesson to take from this. No, cloud saving is excellent. You just have to know what you’re working with.

The real lesson is to not just assume anything’s saved. Verify it’s saved.

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yeah, you’re probably right. I was just a bit upset that this happened

guess I’ll focus on making sure everything’s saved.

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No, poster is incorrect. It is bad design on Microsofts part to have such an issue.

If something cant be save, you, the user, should be notified at the time you click save. It ain’t rocket science and is fundamentally basic software design that should have been flagged up during the QA process that Microsoft no longer bother to employ.

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That’s why I hate the push towards cloud services.

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No, poster is incorrect. It is bad design on Microsofts part to have such an issue.

If something cant be save, you, the user, should be notified at the time you click save. It ain’t rocket science and is fundamentally basic software design that should have been flagged up during the QA process that Microsoft no longer bother to employ.

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not just assume anything’s saved. Verify it’s saved.

Same goes for your backup backup backup, btw…

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Ah yes. The “You are holding it wrong” response.

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The actual problem here isn’t cloud, but the fact that Microsoft Office’s ‘save’ UI/UX is such a shitshow, it’s completely unintuitive as to where a document is being saved. We have a massive problem with this at work, because people frequently accidentally save stuff to OneDrive, rather than on their local PCs, and then completely lose the document.

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And this kind of product is being delivered to the newest generation of customers on the company dime of one of the richest developers in the computing business. If that’s not a cryptic message from developers overtop the already extremely capable working machines environment hackers take advantage of every day, what’s in it for the middle men using this kind of garbage software? Surely they must get some compensation out of it! Sometimes I just think it’s gates telling all those people off that didn’t trust in the method. Like yeah, you use that broken shitty software. Go ahead!

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Its mainly because Office now defaults its save location to Onedrive. The only real benefit I get is the auto save every 3 seconds. Other than that, I always try and point it to local. However, at work we’re migrating to sharepoint so eventually Onedrive save will always be encouraged.

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Microsoft can suck a big one, use Google documents instead

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:)

Don’t you afraid of this ?

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Can happen to any cloud provider, thats why backups are important

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That sounds like an application issue, you can run out of space locally as well (especially with the Macs that are shockingly stingy with the storage in the basic configurations and cost tons to buy the devices with more, and the SSDs were soldered even when they were more like PCs than phones). Backups wouldn’t help to recover some work that was never saved.

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I checked my Mac storage but it had 50gbs of free storage. then I checked the office cloud and it was 5gb/5gb

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The point is you could run out of space anywhere, and if you’re suggesting 50GBs is a lot and you’ll never run out of space I think you’re preaching to the totally wrong choir.

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If you run out of space, you’d expect the application or OS to send some form of error letting you know.

A consumer program that fails silently and loses your data is not acceptable design.

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My macbook has only 256gb of storage which is tiny so I always keep my files on hard drives, but recently I ran out of hard drives. I’ll buy some asap

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