I am playing Horizon Zero Dawn and haven’t gotten to the first main event, but it gives me this feeling like if I upgrade all my equipment now it might be for nothing. I know that is not the case, I looked it up, but what are some games that are the worst offenders? One I can think of is Aerith in the original FF7.

1 point

I mean, not quite an answer but FF7 for reasons I’d rather not spoil just in case

permalink
report
reply
1 point

Did OP add that or did you not read the post.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I’m almost certain it wasn’t there before but I’ve been wrong before.

u/TapTapTapTapTapTaps am I illiterate?

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Been there from the beginning.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

The game is 26 years old, I think we can talk about it now.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Yes but also the Remake trilogy is still coming out and some of the people getting into it might not have any idea about that.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

For real. I’m one of them. And the whole “X has been out for so many years” excuse is ridiculous. There are always new people getting into things so it’s nice to be mindful of spoilers. You can’t expect someone to follow every major plot twist of story telling, even if you consider it popular.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

As a person who never played the whole game, that chick is famous for dying.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

OMG SPOILER

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

In Tomb Raider 3, if you don’t go to Nevada first or go there last before Antarctica you’re pretty much crippled

permalink
report
reply
1 point

why?

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I know it’s low hanging fruit, but Starfield. Never seen an NG+ mechanism made in such a way. Completely nuts.

permalink
report
reply
1 point

What’s the mechanism?

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Roguelite. New game, keep your meta progression, start from scratch otherwise.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I want my god damn space ship in new game plus.

And if not that every penny I spent on it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

player.additem f 1500000

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

All you get to keep is the >!powers, the only “new” thing is the ship and suit!<

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Shadow of The Tomb Raider. Literally happens several times throughout the entire game where you’ll drop down some trap and lose all your gear. The game almost never let’s you use your guns instead forcing you to stealth through unless you’re in a hub area.

permalink
report
reply
1 point

Shadow is the last one I need to finish in this series.

I got burnt out because I 100% the first one, and like 90% the second one in like a few months. Started the third and realized I needed a break from the genre.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Lol this is exactly how I felt. I played about an hour of Shadow and was like “nahhh I’m good”

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I adored to death the first 2 and 100%'d them.

The gameplay in Shadow is very much further refined/improved, but my lord it was such a disappointing story. Worth noting the underlying dev and writers changed, and it was very noticeable. There was some level of “wonder” and “holy shit” throughout the first 2 and I got invested into the gameworlds - the third never captured that and I couldn’t care less about the characters or exploring the map. That and the payoff to Trinity felt very similar to Spectre in the Craig Bond films - set up to be grand and mysterious in scale but underwhelmingly boring cartoon villainy when revealed.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Also it was short as hell

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

But it had an incredible world design though. The puzzles in those jungles were genuinely jaw dropping and there were certain levels that were 10 times more scarier than any regular horror game.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I will never not smile at that one mission where you have to “blend-in” with the villagers as if you are not the only Caucasian women in an entire tribe of native people.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Don’t bother.

Three lost all its charm. The “lost city” you find is terrible and >!a very poor farming community with mud everywhere. No vast ancient ruins, just mud!!<

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Shadows has the same issue as Dragon Age Inquisition called “Get out of the Hinterlands” except you need to just get out of the city. Once you stop trying to get every shiny buable on the map and progress the story the burn out goes away. There’s so much back tracking you can do 1-2 things on the map each visit and you’ll get everything rather than spending 10 hours upfront. Same applies for AC Valhalla.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Yeah, I’m a collector, and you’d think I would have learned by now that everything can be collected post game. If you happen upon something, cool. But there’s no real need to spend 3 hours thoroughly checking every corner.

But god damn it, I know I’ll do it anyways.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Honestly I’d just give it a pass. It’s a 5/10 at best. When I finished it I just had this feeling of “I like a little more game in my games”.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

thats why i change genres after i beat games.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I actually refused to finish shadow after adoring the last two. They vigorously hold your hand and make some nonsensical decisions

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

LISA The Painful has a large cast of characters, some of which are much stronger than others, and like most RPGs, you gain experience and level up by fighting.

However, several times in the game you are forced to make extremely hard choices, up to and including sacrificing the characters in your party (they permanently die). At another point you play Russian roulette by picking a party member to put the gun to their head and pull the trigger. Bad RNG? They’re dead and gone forever.

If you don’t know these events are coming up, you can very easily lose your favorite party/characters forever, and it’s almost assured the ones you use are your strongest, since they’re the ones you’re using in your party.

They don’t call it “The Painful” for no reason.

permalink
report
reply
1 point

Such an awful, awful, brilliant game. I love hate it.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Best soundtrack haha

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

LISA does so much to make you hate that game. But its so good no one does

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

Yeah it’s so good in its… bad writing, bad gameplay, bad execution, and otherwise failure to execute on the basics of game design. Truly unhatable.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

As perfectly brutal as the mechanics can be, it doesn’t even begin to broach how emotionally devastating the story is.

It’s hilarious and somewhat hopeful, but in the end that is just to keep you hooked until it could rip your soul to shreds in its final act.

I’ve never played a game that hated the player as much as this one, and it’s one my favorite games I’ve ever played.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I’ve quit games that I really liked when I was forced into that type of situation.

The Game: Character A dies horribly or his son is eviscerated. You have ten seconds to decide… Me: [censored] that, I’ll choose option C, no one dies, after all the only way to win some games is to stop playing them

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

I looked it up on Xbox and found both LISA the painful and LISA the joyful. Is it worth playing both or what’s the deal with that? I kinda want to play painful based on your description tho hah

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

This game sounds absolutely awful.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

No no, the game you’re thinking of is called Pathologic. Just like the worst game ever to play, but really brilliant in its storytelling.

permalink
report
parent
reply
1 point

If we’re talking about LISA the Painful, going along the same sort of vibe, I think Fear and Hunger is also worth a mention here. Some of the best gear you can get can become suddenly unusable because you lose a literal cointoss, and then your arm is gone. Some endings can get blocked off because of some bad luck, making you lose a character permanently, not to mention the insane lethality and hard choices you’ll be peppered with constantly.

Great game, it’s up there with LISA the Painful for games that I think actively hate you.

permalink
report
parent
reply

Gaming

!gaming@level-up.zone

Create post

A community for informative and interesting gaming content and discussions.

Community stats

  • 1

    Monthly active users

  • 564

    Posts

  • 17K

    Comments

Community moderators