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Charge these footballers and punish them if they are guilty like Greenwood even if the women withdraws the case, because there is enough evidence, but if they are proved innocent don’t push it under the rug like it happened with mendy, the apology should be as loud as the disrespect. And then football clubs should hold these news outlets responsible for wages and transfer fees.

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If only a county would revolt against the British and create an “innocent until proven guilty” standard. Wouldn’t that be something…

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The Americans didn’t invent presumption of innocence. The only stuff that the American founding fathers actually came up with is the obviously stupid stuff that doesn’t work. But you all cling to like holy gospel because you’re a bunch of morons.

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Not sure if you’re talking about the US, but if so, not a great take. Major sporting organizations here—NFL, MLB, NBA, etc—suspend these fuckers and conduct their own investigation as soon as credible allegations emerge. Unlike the FA, these organizations have a backbone and publicly available protocol protocol that allows them to act.

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A non story that will do nothing but fuel harmful speculation

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As they should. It’s far too easy to accuse and ruin somebodies life and it not actually be true. It’s sad, and it takes away from the women that have genuinely been assaulted but it’s happened before. If they are proven guilty, the clubs should be able to sue them for any wages during the investigation and for loss of what ever their commercial value may have been, and no club should want to touch them with a barge pole. Sadly this will never be the case as we’ve seen with Greenwood (yeah yeah he was never proven guilty, only because she dropped the case and got back with him, we all know).

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Isn’t it far too easy for footballers to rape and abuse people tho?

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Yes.

False accusations are extremely rare.

Rapes and sexual abuse gotten away with is common.

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It’s far too easy for anybody with a bit of power to do so. Look at all the celebrity stories that have broken in the last few years. Look at Saville, look at Johnson etc. it’s not a perfect system, but you can’t just presume somebody is guilty

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Greenwood case was slightly different, his accusation was domestic abuse and evidence of his behaviour was released to the public. There wasn’t an accusation of rape, only an implication that he became aggressive and violent when his sexual advances were rejected.

Logic does dictate that with domestic abuse does come rape, however without his fiancee releasing a statement accusing of him rape, his case wouldn’t fit the narrative the BBC is attempting to display.

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This might be because we have the presumption of innocence in this country.

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