47 points

Y’know I get this is supposed to be against “rainbow capitalism”, but with them also promoting the whole “traditional family values” bullshit it’s certainly not a good look.

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34 points

Cheap political points at the expense of vulnerable minorities, perhaps to create a possibility of accusing them of the ills of capitalism later, once the contradictions start biting down the road.

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18 points

It’s not even like we can depend on the KPRF to correct this mistake either.

Shame that misunderstandings about the human body leads to these things.

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38 points

Reactionaries worldwide all understand the value of a scapegoat. Russia’s bourgeoisie benefit from the populace blaming LGBTQ people for their problems just as much as the ones in the west do.

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17 points

It is indeed why we say critical support.

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Yeah this is straight up reactionary shit. They say it’s not meant to persecute people with different sexual orientations, rather just target “the movement”, but wtf does that even mean? How do they even legally define what “the LGBT movement” is? Do they think that people are card-carrying members of some official LGBT organization? This is so vague that it allows basically any interpretation that they decide is politically expedient at any given time.

Depending on public opinion this could range from being virtually a nothing burger that will only be used to go after western sponsored political opposition groups (which would be foreign interference anyway, Russia already has laws for that), all the way to making life a nightmare for queer people and trying to completely erase them from public visibility. Basically what will happen is up to what the mood in the general Russian public is at any given time and how much pushback there is when the government oversteps, but unfortunately at the moment a lot of Russians have very reactionary views on this subject.

The sad part is that i’m not sure that the outcome would be any different even if the ruling party was a communist one, at least if it chose to tail the masses on this issue. It’s a difficult problem to solve because a vanguard party should not be tailing the masses but it also should not impose completely unpopular policies that the masses are not yet ready for. The correct thing to do is to prepare the people for more progressive policy with a thorough campaign of education and normalization.

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They say it’s not meant to persecute people with different sexual orientations, rather just target “the movement”

This shit has me so baffled. “We don’t hate queer people we’re just gonna ban their most visible movement and make it illegal to teach sex education that isn’t heteronormative”

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The sad part is that i’m not sure that the outcome would be any different even if the ruling party was a communist one, at least if it chose to tail the masses on this issue.

At the very least there wouldn’t have been the reactionary backslide due to the return of the power of the church (especially the reactionary sections that were previously exiled).

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18 points

I was thinking more along the lines of if tomorrow the communists seized power and had to govern a country that has already undergone this reactionary backslide. Of course if the SU never fell the circumstances and the social attitudes would be entirely different today, but we can’t change the past, only the future.

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18 points

True, but an alternate history is more realistic than another revolution now. Obviously there could be a revolutionary situation eventually, idk what the future looks like for them.

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How do they even legally define what “the LGBT movement” is? Do they think that people are card-carrying members of some official LGBT organization?

Yeah it has big “the CEO of antifa” energy

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89 points

This is why we keep the “critical” in “critical support”, comrades. What a hellworld we live in where this dumpster country is the second biggest threat to american hegemony.

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37 points

Why do we keep catching strays 😭

I don’t understand the motive. I know the West weaponizes us for everything, is it because of that?

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21 points

for some people it might be that, for others it might just be reactionary conservative beliefs about gender.

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15 points

It’s incredibly unfortunate and I can’t figure out which scenario is easier to remedy…

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Everyone catches strays, like when the LGBT death squad plants their rainbow flag on gaza or the US posts about their LGBT attack helicopter crew. The system alienates and fragments everyone by tricking one group it hates it slightly less than another. If you aren’t principled, it’s easy to buy into it.

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28 points

They’re essentially pitting us against each other and some are unable to see it, or at worst they do see it and play into it.

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19 points

Yep, it’s sad and irritating.

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Rare Russia L

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27 points

Common Russia L, we critically support because they also commonly have Ws.

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The alignment against Western imperialism is probably the only reason we still critically support them — they wouldn’t have any Ws without that

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western commies cannot criticize everything in the world after sitting on the most tyrannical genocidal empire on history.

☝️ 🔥👏

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38 points

Russia has lots of Ls, they just happen to play the vanguard role in breaking western hegemony over the world right now. I hope Russia can find its way back to the light one day though. And breaking western empire is a prerequisite for that.

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Honestly, not more. China do resist US economically and it would be important in the long run, but considering how imperialism works, resisting it militarily is a prerequisite of everything else, since if they would be not resisted, China would be soon surrounded and eventually would be squashed, just as USSR was.

Both are needed and tied to eachother, just the situation is weird that unlike the past those aren’t done by a single country but two.

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10 points

China is kind of a soft-ally to the States, and are essentially teddy bears when it comes to geopolitics. Russia on the other hand is not even remotely worried about blatantly violating the hegemony.

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The only thing missing is cracking down on where they can source their materials.

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